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Why did I read this in Schwarzenegger’s voice?
We're fighting the war on car dependence.
Cars are fine but car dependance isn't, our cities shouldn't be built in a way that requires a car for everyday like.
Requiring that your citizens own a $10000 - $35000+ depreciating asset just to live life is a tragedy that lessens economic mobility and punishes your most vulnerable.
However, if you follow that train of thought, you'll often get to the point where you'd need to get rid of cars as we know them today.
If people weren't depending on them, fewer would have one. And if only few people have one (they are expensive, after all), why build roads just for them? Why all this costly infrastructure that would only benefit 5% of the population? Why use everyone's tax to fund them?
The fact that cars are built like today - basically comfort cages - is only because all this infrastructure exists. They're not used outside of that environment. So of people don't depend on it, they'd probably vanish in a couple of decades, at least outside of their respective niches.
Look up how the town Houten in the Netherlands is designed. A town designed for pedestrians and cyclists. Still accessible for cars and plenty of parking spaces and roads for them. And more than 5% of inhabitants have one. You don’t need to get rid of cars to make a city walkable and cyclable and not everyone wants to live in a dense almost car-free city like Tokyo.
We still need roads for buses and trucks. Basically nothing is produced locally any more
Cars still suck even without the dependence. I live somewhere that very much isn't car dependant but there's still too many of them and they still make places miserable.
I live in Taipei. It is one of the most dense cities in the world.
We have an amazing subway system, but I still own a car. I also own a bicycle and a stand-up electric scooter.
I take whatever transportation is the most convenient. Sometimes it's the bus. Sometimes, it's the subway. Sometimes it's by car. My point is it's a city infrastructure, not the mode of transportation. If you vote for a government that cares about infrastructure, you will live in the city you want.
I get brainwashed outside the pod too, so there
I work in hospice, traveling to patients homes. I'd be more than happy to work from home, but the logistics of getting dying bed ridden people to travel to me has been tricky.
Imagine how smooth your travels would be, if the 70% that could work from home or use public transport would do so.
You mean like during the COVID lockdown? It was amazing. I wish people learned more lessons from that time.
You worked remotely with dying humans?
No. Theyre saying when everyone else was in lockdown, traveling was easier because no one else was on the road. Im also someone who cant work remote and i long for the days where a sprinkle of rain doesnt mean my 25 minute commute turns into an hour
Apparently this is an unpopular opinion on Lemmy but - I like cars? Cars are fun. You can learn so much working on them and restoring them. Learn to weld, learn to build engines and gearboxes, learn to paint, learn how to do wiring. And at the end of it after all that blood, sweat, and tears - you have something fun you can drive about in!
Why does everybody here hate on my hobby so much? Its like the one thing I have in this world. Let me enjoy it.
I feel ya. I'm currently waiting for a part for my motorcycle to come in so I can take apart the clutch again. But what makes it fun is that my entire ability to transport myself isn't dependent solely on my motorcycle. If I needed it running in order to get to work every day, I would never take the time to work on it - I would be forced to take it to a mechanic to ensure the job is done right, and fast, because I can't afford the luxury of making mistakes and learning on my own.
The pushback against cars is pushback against car dependence, and the externalities that cars create in our shared urban environments. Not against hobbyists who just think cars are neat.
Cars as a hobby are cool. A society built around cars is stupid. Billions of people using cars daily is pretty dangerous to us all.
I like shooting guns. It's loud, smells funny, and you get to train patience and self-control. It's a cool hobby. A society built around guns is... well... just look at the US.
Your hobby is fine as long as you don't impose the externalities on other people. I don't want to hear your loud engine, I don't want to breathe your fumes, and I don't want to worry about getting hit while just walking around.
I assumed this is where I was
Wrong.
Edit!
Also, notice this:
And this dude (lower left, immediately 9 o'clock of the "Y"):
See ya.
they want you to sit on a metal box
Only if you ride this.
15mph max is a bit disappointing, I'd like to see 20-25 to at least compete with my legs, but I'm down for something like this.
Honestly, at first glance I kind of laughed at this thing but the more I think about it, the more I want it. I have an e-scooter that I don't use often(I end up using rentals more often than not) just because I have to store it in my basement but this would fit by my door no problem
Not entirely - assuming you work in a building, aren't the "return to office" mandates the same? The cubicle is just your particular pod out of a massive collection of them inside a larger metal shell.
Can't speak for others, but I don't participate in the stereotypical mad rush from the suburbs to the city and vise-versa every day. My commute is about 7 minutes, provided I don't feel like deliberately taking a detour to meander through the countryside on my motorcycle after work.
Due to the nature of my work I do have to be in the office, though, to interact with... ugh... clients.
No cubicles, just "open concept." Ha, checkmate! /s
Looks like the blue ridge Mountains. Super pretty!
It's (near) the top of Spruce Knob in West Virginia, looking West over the Appalachians, into the Allegheny Plateau.
...brainwashed by electromagnetic radiation? Do you really believe that statement?
I think you might have missed what community this is..
I almost did too, as this reads like the most sane /fuckcars post
Yeah I was getting ready to post some similar comments because it's just too close to the weird shit they post
I think they were talking about talk radio
It's another way to say "radio waves", so when people actually listened to the radio it was a true statement.
Now it's podcasts.
Which are still radiated at you through the ether ;)
Podcasts are just on demand talk radio.
Commuting to office (by car) daily is the real problem. Road trips by car are incredibly freeing and not miserable.
Jokes on you, I love my brainwash pod. I still take the train anywhere I can though, the Seattle light rail system is dope.
I don't have a car, I ride my non-electric dope ass bike everywhere, and I listen to old Dead and Phish shows I downloaded to my rooted Android phone.
We are not the same.
It's this dissing the radio?
I work from home and haven’t driven a car in months.
Until Trump decides to enforce a universal RTO edict - including removing all financial "home office" breaks from the tax code.
If that happens, you'll see a bunch of retalliation from WFH programmers-turned-political-hackers
Who will soon find themselves in some hostile nation courtesy of ICE.
Not if you don't live in the center of a very large city 🤷♂️.
This. I HATE cities. Crammed up against everyone else, smells, noises 🤮. I'm over 10 miles to the nearest grocery store and all these fuckcars weirdos will do some fucking mental gymnastics to explain a RURAL life without cars. I don't think a single one of them has been anywhere where there is actual forest between cities/towns. They live in a city with great public transit so that must be how it is everywhere, right?
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