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[–] epicstove@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 days ago

I remember seeing a video about a similar service in the Netherlands for delivered groceries.

They deliver by bike, are faster by bike.

...and still are a bit of a controversial issue.

[–] BackgrndNoize@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I worked as an engineer at a food delivery company and I almost never used my own companies app, these companies charge both the customer and the restaurant and the restaurants raise the prices of their menu on the app to compensate for it, plus the delivery takes a long ass time and the food arrives cold. And the business is still mostly unprofitable and these companies stay afloat from investments while they suffer losses.

[–] head_socj@midwest.social 5 points 2 days ago

It's a natural consequence of decoupling value from productivity; and instead relying on data harvesting for predictive analytics as an alternative for anything truly valuable.

We're living in a world in which the wealthy keep coming up with ways to hand money back and forth, while creatinf new schemes to cut out the working class from any resulting 'value' creation.

AI will fuck over workers just like every other technological marvel that preceded it.

[–] Gorilladrums@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

This is dumb, hating for the sake of hating just shows a low level of thinking. Cars are very useful tools that have practical applications that aren't going away any time soon, and delivery services are an example of that.

The issue with cars is that we decided to designed our cities and towns around them at the expense of pedestrians, culture, and the environment. This has spawned societies that are plagued with long commutes, inactive lifestyles, dangerous infrastructure, smog, and an arms race to get comically huge cars. Criticizing the car industry, the car lobby, specific aspects of cars, or our urban layouts is perfectly valid. Blindly hating on cars just because they're cars is counterproductive.

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[–] eager_eagle@lemmy.world 50 points 3 days ago (7 children)

other countries deliver most things using motorbikes, it always sounded ridiculous to me to use a car to deliver food

[–] Beacon@fedia.io 25 points 3 days ago

OOP has no idea what they're talking about, in NYC too all food deliveries come by bike, and in the large majority of cases it's an ebike

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[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 26 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (4 children)

I don't get it either. That shit is so much more expensive. Not only are they charging you delivery fees and "convenience" fees, the base prices of what you're ordering at are also inflated through apps like Doordash and Uber Eats. Something that is only $5 if you went and got it yourself is now $8, plus a delivery fee, plus other fees. And then there is also a chance that the person delivering it is a piece of shit who just steals your food.

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[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 26 points 3 days ago (11 children)

Isn’t most delivery in NYC done by bicycle?

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[–] ToadOfHypnosis@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (2 children)

A lot of people are bad with money and are way too ready to pay too much for convenience. This service has uses, but if you aren’t tied by need to use it, it’s pretty wasteful expenditure.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 days ago

need to use it, it’s pretty wasteful expenditure.

At home, when we moved, we ordered a few times. The food ended up cold, late, wrong, AND 75% more expensive.

We used to order GH and DD at work a lot, they just priced themselves out of the market. on WFW days, we just either go there together or order form a place that has their own app and one person picks up for everyone.

We have a pizza place in the neighborhood that delivers to us for free, they're expensive but end up being the same price as ordering other places through GH/DD. When we want something outside the hood, I just go and get it. We get it faster, hotter, it's right and it's cheaper.

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[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 32 points 3 days ago

It was always obvious that the shared delivery model would result in massive delivery fees. Store employees doing deliveries were always at least partially subsidized by sales. Going third party means another company needs to suck more profit out of each delivery.

[–] koper@feddit.nl 31 points 3 days ago (10 children)

Do delivery drivers in NYC really use cars? 🤨

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[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I've never ordered food to my door. Not even pizza. The rare times I order takeout pizza I pick it up myself. Unless you're a senior citizen it just seems so wasteful and lazy and comically expensive to have food delivered to you. I mean I get that we're absolutely going to destroy this planet, but holy shit are we speedrunning it.

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[–] remon@ani.social 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

What do you want to me to do instead? Cook myself all the time? Go outside? No thank you.

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[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I've honestly never quite realized up until now how utterly ridiculous it is that people regularly demand that their food be cooked for them.

I've honestly never quite realized up until now how utterly ridiculous it is that people regularly demand that their food items be prepared and packaged for them.

I've honestly never quite realized up until now how utterly ridiculous it is that people regularly demand that that the animals they eat are slaughtered for them.

I've honestly never quite realized up until now how utterly ridiculous it is that people regularly demand that their grain be milled for them.

Society evolves buddy. I don't churn my own butter, but my grandmas did, and would find it ridiculous I have 247 access to a supermarket selling some. And it's even being kept at an exact temperature, all the time? Packaged without any sweat on it? Ridiculous!

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 3 points 2 days ago

Never really thought of getting food delivered, with prices like that I shall continue not to.

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