ChatGPT was mentioned and now the thread is all about AI being good/bad, as usual.
Anyway, I'm glad you got your server going - hope you enjoy your flight!
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I might be mistaken but at the time of writing there was 1 post about AI
Not gonna go back and search for "AI" but when I read the thread hours ago there were multiple back and forth comments criticizing/defending use of ChatGPT (which is what I meant by "AI" in this case), and this was not at all the point of OP's post.
ye i meant there was just 1 top level comment, but quite the discussion, true
The advantage of self-hosted WoW is that you can cheat to your heart's content.
So no more grinding if you don't want to.
Wrath WoW Best WoW
I don’t know if I played it much if at all.
It’s been so long and I know for sure that I did not play cataclysm.
I also never got too high of a level in the game either and mostly solo quested. It’s just fun to go around mindlessly.
I played in a TBC private server when Wrath wasn't out yet. I never made it to level 70, or maybe I did in the very end. I just never cared either. There was so much to discover
ChatGPT said
When i was researching
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The latest LLM's are pretty damn good as a research assistant - that was its original purpose. Using chatgpt as your first go at researching a new subject (like self hosting) is perfectly valid.
What’s wrong with this?
I remember when "research" actually meant something. Now it just means "throw it into the black box and get some info that has a 50/50 chance of being completely made up "
For dipping your toes into a new topic I think it's perfectly fine. It helps to provide useful pointers for further "research" (in a sense that would meet your requirement) and also manages to provide mostly accurate overviews. But sure, to really dive into this, LLMs like ChatGPT and co. are just some low-level assistants at best and one should go through the material themselves.
You can ask CharGPT for sources. TBH it’s often a much better search engine than Google, although that’s not hard nowadays.
Perplexity does a good job as LLM-search-engine-combo.
Oh boy, I sure do love the colloquialization of language and how those who were raised on a monostatic definition get upset about their favourite words becoming dynamic.
It’s all become quite convoluted now with all the other shit out there but they do actually serve well as a research tool in a more intuitive way than a search engine can
Haha, well when searching for games that can be self hosted, it’s gives a list which I can then further research on the web.
I've been seriously turned off by the grind of WoW. Are you able to do something like reduce the XP level scaling or something so that every level is like 30m and improve drop rates?
You can also just play as a GM.
I’m not exactly sure what powers you have as a gm, but I think it’s pretty extensive.
I’m still fine tuning the server and haven’t played much.
With AzerothCore you can, yes.
Update, I downloaded the VMangos database. It looks like it might be possible to edit drop rates with creature_loot_template(ChanceOrQuestChance) and XP gain by using creature_template(xp_multiplier)
I haven't hosted anything yet but it could be tested by editing a Chicken's xp_multiplier from 0.0 to 1.0
'I'm not a big fan of the grind. Can you fundamentally change the way experience works to accommodate my personal preferences?"
"Yeah, sure, I see no problems with that. Alternatively, I could just boost your characters to max level if you would like?"
You can mod the database for creatures to drop more xp, gold and loot from the looks of it.
Yeah! And it’s super easy, just find the line that corresponds to drop rate or exp from mob/ questions and change it from 1 to 10 and get 10x.
I have exp and gold set to x2
Yeah, I might actually play wow since I can reduce the XP scaling by a lot. It goes from 50 mobs at lvl 10 to 600+ to level up at lvl 60. I have a 7mo old no way I have time for that hahaha.
I use SQL for work so I can mod the DB easily to remove the exponential scaling in favor of linear scaling like mob XP scales.
I don’t think you need to mod the database for that. There is just a mod I think that will relevels everything to be at the right level for your character.
You can also give yourself equipment and money, if you set yourself up as a GM
As someone who believes LFG was the beginning of the end of MMOs, I can't tell if I despise this or if I'm impressed.
LFG?
Looking for Group. As someone else said, the ability to click "queue for dungeon", be dropped into an instance with a bunch of random, and proceed to faceroll the dungeon without any thought or patience required.
The fun part of old school MMOs was the journey, not the destination. Modern MMOs have all optimized the journey out by making everything doable without ever being dependent on another player.
I think they mean the automated party queueing and match making systems, which takes out the social aspects from MMOs altogether.
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FYI there are free wow instances out there if you want other humans involved. Turtle wow and ascension.
Thanks, I’ve always solo played and didn’t get too deep into the game, so when I play with others I feel like I’m holding them back or need everything explained.
Plus self hosting it lets be play on my up coming 14 hour flight.
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I did too a couple months back to play with the wife and kids.
There is a mod that enables bots which I guess could be helpful in dungeons and raids. I didn't try it though.
That’s awesome! I was wondering how I would do raids.
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