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[–] Tracaine@lemmy.world 178 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I mean...is that not assumed to be the default? Cell phone surveillance is pretty much just business as usual in this country is it not?

[–] roofuskit@lemmy.world 128 points 2 days ago (13 children)

This is illegal without a warrant. And judges have been denying broad sweeping warrants that would cover such situations.

[–] Pulsar@lemmy.world 113 points 2 days ago (2 children)

We are in different times. This administration doesn't care about warrants.

[–] Anahkiasen@lemmy.blahaj.zone 91 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

It honestly doesn't care about "illegal" much either 😅

Edit: for themselves of course! Everyone else...

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[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 day ago

never did. us three-letter-agencies have been buying data to get around pesky laws for a while now.

[–] Vanilla_PuddinFudge@infosec.pub 44 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

pardon me, sir, but this is illegal withou-

click

hey! Uncuff me! This is illegal!

car door shuts

Hey! Let me out of this car!

vroooooom

Where are we going!? You can't take me to jail!

arrives at jail

Dear family, they call this place prison, it looks like prison, and I've been issued what they're calling a "lawyer", but impossible as that may be considering they didn't have a warrant, I can only deduce that I've been kidnapped by a vigilante to a remote location pretending to be a prison!

[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 27 points 2 days ago

Relying on the rule of law is reactive.

Ditching the phone is proactive.

Be Proactive.

[–] micka190@lemmy.world 33 points 2 days ago

Pretty sure this kind of thing has been illegal since before Edward Snowden became a whistleblower, tbh. The US Government hasn't cared about people's privacy and the laws surrounding it for decades.

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[–] Deflated0ne@lemmy.world 73 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (11 children)

Please dont take your fucking phone to a protest. Buy a burner if you must.

You will be tracked. And spied on. And facial recognitioned. Etc.

[–] lemmy_acct_id_8647@lemmy.world 19 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I honestly thought this was common knowledge but obviously I was wrong. I get the need to video and document but damn. Don’t use your daily driver folks.

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[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 20 points 1 day ago

IMSI catchers. It's known at least for 10 years now, that they get used on protests in US.

[–] hiramfromthechi@lemmy.world 33 points 2 days ago (2 children)
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[–] m3t00@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

if you've ever used a radar detector you know, people drive like they are always being watched. not often in my experience. doubt these dolts are real sophisticated. fear is their main weapon.

[–] FuckFascism@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Would a burner phone be susceptible to this kind of attack?

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yes, but then you get rid of it immediately. Also, don't activate it or have it on at home or any other place that can be associated with you. Only do so after paying with cash and at the location where you're going to use it then dispose of it.

[–] cabillaud@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

You will be recorded while paying for the phone. This won't bring you any anonymity.

[–] Strawberry@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

wear a mask, nondescript clothing, pay with cash, and don't bring your phone to the store

[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Wear gloves, rinse the fingerprints off the money, wait for it to dry, then use it to buy stuff

[–] sqgl@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago

Blowdry your beard, moisturize your hands and use a kangaroo scrotum purse.

You will have been recorded at the protest too. So the store recording gives away nothing new.

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[–] Hux@lemmy.ml 19 points 2 days ago

I wonder if it would be possible to extend the capabilities of the software to triangulate the location of a a Stingray or other false tower with a few more of those devices working in concert in the same area.

[–] toast@retrolemmy.com 28 points 2 days ago (2 children)

You probably wouldn't want to bring a phone to some types of events, but as the number of these events increase, the odds of you just happening to be close to such an event during the course of a normal day might increase. Maybe it's best if we turn off 2g reception on our phones. No reason to be swept up in warrantless sweeps if not necessary.

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