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Red meat has a huge carbon footprint because cattle requires a large amount of land and water.

https://sph.tulane.edu/climate-and-food-environmental-impact-beef-consumption

Demand for steaks and burgers is the primary driver of Deforestation:

https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2022-beef-industry-fueling-amazon-rainforest-destruction-deforestation/

https://e360.yale.edu/features/marcel-gomes-interview

https://www.thebureauinvestigates.com/stories/2023-06-02/almost-a-billion-trees-felled-to-feed-appetite-for-brazilian-beef

If you don't have a car and rarely eat red meat, you are doing GREAT πŸ™ŒπŸ™Œ πŸ™Œ

Sure, you can drink tap water instead of plastic water. You can switch to Tea. You can travel by train. You can use Linux instead of Windows AI's crap. Those are great ideas. But, don't drive yourself crazy. If you are only an ordinary citizen, remember that perfect is the enemy of good.

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[–] untuned@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 days ago

I guess it's a good thing that the lone star tick is moving north

[–] imTIREDnhungryboss@lemmy.ml 19 points 2 days ago (13 children)

or eat the wealthy is a better start

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[–] cheeseandkrakens@lemmy.blahaj.zone 114 points 3 days ago (12 children)

My single greatest contribution for the climate is not having children.

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[–] hobovision@mander.xyz 18 points 2 days ago

The metric of per kg of product, while entirely fair, can be a bit misleading when it comes to making high impact decisions in your life. The switching to tea example is a good one to criticize because on this chart coffee is quite high up there, but I consume only 15g of coffee a day, compared to probably close to a kg of meat, egg, and dairy. Eliminating coffee would not be a high climate impact decision.

[–] AnimalsDream@slrpnk.net 18 points 3 days ago (3 children)

The prevalence of people telling everyone not to have kids in the context of our current culture is weird.

Alt-right: "Hey we're trying to have as many kids as possible so there's more of us, and less of you. Do us a favor and don't have kids."

Evidently a lot of people on the left: "Sounds good dude."

May I propose a reasonable alternative? If you don't want to have kids, cool, don't have kids. If you want to have kids, have the financial and social security to do so responsibly, and a partner who wants the same thing, then have kids (but also go vegan, ride a bike, and raise them to do the same).

Aka, you do you.

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'm certainly not going to bring kids into this shitty world when I have no confidence whatsoever that they will have a good life. Things are going downhill FAST and there's absolutely no reason to believe that situation is going to change. It's going to be bad enough with just me having to live with this shit for another 20-30 years (assuming nothing kills me before that).

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[–] Tronn4@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Save the planet! Eat Deez Nutz!

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[–] skisnow@lemmy.ca 38 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (10 children)

perfect is the enemy of good.

I wish vegans and vegetarians would be a bit more willing to promote this viewpoint. It’s insane how many otherwise normal people will refuse a single meat-free meal for no reason other than identity politics.

[–] DarthFrodo@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Most vegetarians and vegans will be happy about positive changes. They aren't the loudest ones, however. Similar to feminism, the most radical opinions get much more attention relative to reasonable ones. Especially by those opposed to it.

When I was a meat eater I also saw it as an all-or-nothing choice though, as if I need to fully commit all at once, which was daunting to me. Then I tried to be vegetarian for a week which was surprisingly easy. Then I had a foot in the door, decided to continue, and replaced eggs and milk as well in the following weeks.

Some people might have an easier time replacing single foods, like buying plant-based patties instead of meat ones, or just trying out a few plant-based alternatives, and that's great too.

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[–] brendansimms@lemmy.world 21 points 3 days ago

Not loving that the exact source of the data in this graph is not clearly linked in the description.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 29 points 3 days ago (21 children)

That's almost certainly the biggest dietary change you can make.

But for overall impact, there's one winner and it's bigger than everything else put together.

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2017/jul/12/want-to-fight-climate-change-have-fewer-children

Capitalism hates this one weird trick.

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[–] renegadespork@lemmy.jelliefrontier.net 81 points 3 days ago (7 children)

Here's the perspective that helped me the most with this:

You don't have to quit meat (sorry for the pun) cold turkey.

Even cutting your meat consumption by half can have a significant impact. Start by ordering a vegetarian option instead of meat every once in a while. Experiment and find veggie alternatives you actually like, there are tons of options now. I heard someone refer to this as "microdosing veganism", and it can really help make the change less exhausting.

Over time, you might even notice your tastes start to shift and vegan options become actually enjoyable instead of a "sacrifice".

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I've been the bane of chickens all my life...

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