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[–] rayyy@lemmy.world 5 points 18 hours ago

People go off on vacations to explore other places because they are told that is the thing to do yet they have never explored their own locality in the same fashion.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 48 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Look what they have to do to mimic a fraction of our holidays.

[–] Baylahoo@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 day ago

I get your reference but this is a pretty small amount of effort haha

[–] Lembot_0004@discuss.online 135 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I can't afford a European vacation either. I'm from Europe.

[–] Scott_of_the_Arctic@lemmy.world 46 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I knew I wouldn't be able to afford a vacation so I moved to a scenic tourist destination with a view of the fjord and drink coffee on my balcony. That way I can pretend. I also get one of the kids to throw a dishtowel over their arm and carry a small notebook while they ask me how I take the coffee thats been sitting in the pot for a half hour already.

[–] naeap@sopuli.xyz 14 points 1 day ago (3 children)

In what hell hole of Europe are you, that you don't get freshly brewed espresso?

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 20 points 1 day ago

Only the Finnish can be that enthusiastic about the gloom

I'm the only person in my family who drinks coffee. I'm not going to buy an espresso machine. But yeah if I went to a cafe, restaurant or petrol station I'd get espresso.i just don't have a proper espresso machine at home.

North Europe probably.

[–] syklemil@discuss.tchncs.de 60 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That's how it starts. Just let it develop for a century or something and you'll probably be decent at it

[–] grue@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago

Unfortunately, it doesn't work like that. You have to lobby to change zoning laws to make it happen.

[–] 2910000@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago

This is genuinely really classy

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

I was talking about this with a friend. The younger generations got screwed over because we have to evaluate what we value more, and give up one over the other to achieve one of the life goals. I managed to save for a house; but only because I lived with my parents for many years before moving out. I don't have a car and I haven't gone on foreign holidays in years. Meanwhile, my friend has travelled in so many countries but he doesn't have enough savings for a house. The boomer generation has been able to afford to live their life to the fullest with just a single household income, and didn't have to give up any or all of their life goals, values and desires.

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[–] SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world 62 points 1 day ago (8 children)

This, but private seating in your personal driveway.

[–] datavoid@lemmy.ml 29 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

There ~~is~~ are only ~~one cigarette~~ two cigarettes in this picture, is this really France?

[–] naeap@sopuli.xyz 16 points 1 day ago

Since the new laws now, yes

[–] devfuuu@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Wait, outdoor sitting is a thing only in europe?

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (8 children)

Basically yes.

We don't do that in the US anywhere near as much.

Maybe a park will have a table and bench, maybe some certain restaurants in certain parts of certain cities will have them.

But its much, much less common, as our society is designed to be unwalkable, designed for cars and parking lots and air conditioning.

[–] frank@sopuli.xyz 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

While I generally agree with the sentiment, the distinction is if there's outside seating it's either a park, or owned by a restaurant. It's not like the blend of the street, sidewalk, businesses you see in Europe

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I agree with your specification.

The kind if mixed use, areas that are walkable, have seating, various kinds of shops... usually only in a few districts of a few fairly large towns or large cities.

There is seating, sometimes, in like... restaurants in basically a strip mall type set up... but they're like islands, surrounded by acres of parking lots.

[–] I_Fart_Glitter@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago

Most places where I am in California have outdoor seating options, but it’s more common to have it behind the restaurant in a little courtyard than in front right next to the street.

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[–] SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Fire codes prevent it in NA for a large part. Building have specific occupancy limits, and having booted down seats has exceptions for more space than loose chairs, and businesses usually want the capability of having the largest revenue, so most seats.

Now this also applies outside as those would have to be part of their property. In most cities restaurants and the sort they are built right to their property limits, or they incorporate a patio with set seating.

So if you do see it, it’s not movable furniture, but an actual area. Now along one of our drivable Aves they’ve made compromises, picture below, I don’t hate the solution, but it’s obviously not ideal and hard to accommodate wheelchairs.

They’ve allowed sidewalks to be patios, and let some road space be made into the “sidewalk”, but it’s not a perfect solution, especially when it starts snowing.

[–] marcos@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

It's a thing on most of the world. But it seems not to be a thing on a large part of the US.

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[–] v01dworks@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I think it’s a joke about people sitting outside at cafes in Europe?

I’ve heard this is a thing a lot of Americans find weird but I’m American and it’s not weird at all to me, we do literally the same thing here (at least in my home state)

[–] BossDj@piefed.social 11 points 1 day ago

Except the sidewalks are too tiny so the cafe is allowed to partition a section of the street for their tables

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

It looks like they are at a sidewalk cafe in Europe. The Sangria implies Spain. Tiny tables and chairs and everyone is smoking.

[–] kambusha@sh.itjust.works 22 points 1 day ago

Aperol Spritz

[–] roserose56@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 day ago

More of a local and graphic village, with small restaurants/bars, drinking sangria or or Aperol.

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Very nice.
But can you sit like that for four weeks on end?

[–] sexy_peach@feddit.org 10 points 1 day ago

That looks nice

[–] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 day ago

I don't think I'll even ever leave my continent at this point, but I do have a driveway…

[–] GladiusB@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Not enough hostel smelling of Pachouli

[–] brown_guy45@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 day ago

Me and bros during our vacations

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