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[–] AlteredEgo@lemmy.ml 12 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

Can you support "the political prisoners of Palestine Action"?

Can you say "Palestine Action is not a terrorist organization"?

Can you say "Outlawing Palestine Action is terrorism"?

Or is that also illegal?

Fucking fascists... A sad end to the Labour Party, but it was clear what would happen after they stabbed Corbyn in the back.

[–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 3 points 6 days ago

Hold up one saying "I support Yevette Cooper", i doubt they'll arrest you for that.

[–] arc99@lemmy.world -1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Fascists? Virtually the entire house of commons voted them a terrorist organisation, not just Labour. That was because they attacked UK military aircraft on a UK military base and concocted an excuse for doing it. That got them branded terrorists.

This does not in any way stop people rallying for Palestine or the appalling inhuman injustices they're suffering. I'm sure there are marches happening all the time, not to mention charities to donate to, social media feeds to amplify atrocities. Just don't attack UK bases or support those who do and you'll be fine.

As for Corbyn, he wasn't "stabbed in the back". He lost two general elections in a row and he resigned. If he was still there for the last election he'd be sitting in opposition in charge of an even smaller party surrounded by a clique. He was not some saviour for Labour, he was the bane of it.

[–] AlteredEgo@lemmy.ml 13 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

"Terrorism, in its broadest sense, is the use of violence against non-combatants to achieve political or ideological aims."

If you call this terrorism, you can call anything terrorism, and anybody can be a terrorist. If you're willing to do that to aid the Israel fascist state, that makes you a fascist. Yes, the entire house of commons are fascists.

And sure, that was very much illegal and they could have used any number of laws applicable to attacking a military base. Just not terrorism. But the UK military is involved in a partnership in the gaza war. They are not "non-combatants"

[–] makingrain@lemmy.world -3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

It's what UK law considers terrorism.

[–] jumping_redditor@sh.itjust.works 7 points 6 days ago (1 children)

the military does not deserve any protection from citizens and should never be an excuse to call people terrorists.

[–] makingrain@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Right. Doesn't change the fact about UK law considering their actions terroristic.. You know, what this thread is about.

[–] AnyOldName3@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago

The thread's about the law being akin to the law of a police state. A state is a police state if it enforces unjust laws that criminalise reasonable acts.

[–] inlandempire@jlai.lu 109 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Always have been a police state, anti terrorism laws are ALWAYS used to silence 'dissident' voices

From 5 July 2025, it is an offence under the UK's Terrorism Act 2000 to be a member of Palestine Action,[7] fundraise for it,[8][9] wear or display items arousing reasonable suspicion of membership,[10] or if someone invites support or even "expresses an opinion or belief supportive of" Palestine Action "reckless as to whether a person to whom the expression is directed will be encouraged to support" it.[11] These offences carry a maximum penalty of up to 14 years in prison for membership or inviting support, and up to 6 months in prison or a fine for displaying supporting items.[7][10][11][9]

[–] Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

wear or display items arousing reasonable suspicion of membership

Bro, they're making it illegal to wear a fucking keffiyeh. What a shitty fucking law.

People in the UK should protest en masse so that this damn police state can't arrest everyone.

[–] inlandempire@jlai.lu 3 points 6 days ago

Head garments regulations are a recurring debate in France as well, what a coincidence it's always about Muslim clothes and not Babushka's scarfs

[–] cows_are_underrated@feddit.org 36 points 1 week ago (10 children)

Is Palestine Action a specific movement/group or is palestine Action literally just supporting Palestine? Asking from a non UK perspective.

[–] scholar@lemmy.world 46 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (9 children)

It's a specific group that recently broke into an RAF base and started mucking about with the aircraft, hence why the government aren't their biggest fans.

Shortly after they did this they were designated as a terrorist group by the home office which is why public support is an offence.

[–] FlyingCircus@lemmy.world 35 points 1 week ago (18 children)

Their latest action was against the planes, but they have actually been extraordinarily successful at damaging the economic machine behind the genocide through targeted and sustained sabotage campaigns against Elbit Systems weapons manufacturer and their supporters, like Barclays Bank. They have already forced the closure of two weapons factories and forced Barclays to divest. It is most likely this sustained campaign that is the real reason for the terrorist designation, though the action at Brize Norton was probably the straw that broke the camel’s back.

[–] Samskara@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

they have actually been extraordinarily successful at damaging the economic machine behind the genocide through targeted and sustained sabotage campaigns against Elbit Systems weapons manufacturer and their supporters, like Barclays Bank

Can you recommend some reading on this?

[–] Saurok@lemmy.ml 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

https://www.thecanary.co/page/1/?s=Palestine+action

The Canary has covered a lot of their actions against Elbit and others. I've linked the search page above... They've honestly done so much stuff that this'll probably be easier and you can just scroll through the articles.

[–] Samskara@sh.itjust.works 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Thank you. I see lots of vandalism, breaking and entering, blocking business entrances, and such. They are well organized and committed. They seem to have some success with that as in companies divesting or stopping to supply. Pretty impressive.

Going after the RAF for a tenuous connection to Israel was a bit too daring and turned out to be a mistake.

[–] Saurok@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 days ago

Agreed. I think they probably could've kept at it for a while if they hadn't fucked with the RAF, but it's at least put a huge spotlight on them I guess. Hopefully, other Brits will take up the banner under different names/orgs.

[–] FlyingCircus@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

I learned about this through an interview with a PA member on Rev Left Radio: https://revolutionaryleftradio.libsyn.com/palestine-action-direct-action-against-the-death-machine

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[–] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 79 points 1 week ago (22 children)

Let's hope the UK citizens prove less cowardly than the US ones.

[–] comrade_twisty@feddit.org 98 points 1 week ago (4 children)

You have a lot of trust in people who voted to isolate themselves from their biggest allies and trading partners just a couple years ago.

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[–] kaitco@lemmy.world 54 points 1 week ago (3 children)

As American, I’m always so glad to see our cousins across the water follow our inane footsteps. Cheers Brits!

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[–] Lyra_Lycan@lemmy.blahaj.zone 48 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (10 children)

Fuck you, government. I do not respect your existence, and day by day, am losing respect for the laws you demand we follow. Fuck your rules.

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[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 48 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Palestine action? Never heard of them. We support Action for Palestinian.

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 26 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

The People's Front of Judea?

No, The Judean People's Front.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WboggjN_G-4

[–] Samskara@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 days ago

The movie references the splintering of the PFLP (Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine).

  • 1967 Palestinian Popular Struggle Front (PPSF)
  • 1968 Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine – General Command (PFLP-GC)
  • 1969 Democratic Front for the Liberation of Palestine (DFLP)
  • 1972 Popular Revolutionary Front for the Liberation of Palestine
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[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 31 points 1 week ago (19 children)

US does police state better.

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 29 points 1 week ago (2 children)

US is Judge Dredd.

UK is 1984.

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