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Meanwhile, the people who want ice cream:
You're on a bus with 9 people. 1 guy takes up 2/3rds of the bus by himself. 3 people take up 90% of what remains, and the last 5 are stacked on top of each other on the last remaining seat.
The one guy with 2/3 of the bus says he wants to throw two of the other passengers off a cliff at random so he can have their seats. 2 of the 3 in the next segment think this is a terrible idea and say we should keep things as they are, with one voting for it because he thinks somehow everyone will benefit from the top guy having more space. The bottom segment votes 3-2 in favor of the idea, because they hate the people in the second group for taking up space they could use, and like the idea of possibly throwing them off a cliff.
The people who want to get ice cream are also helping a psychopath murder innocent civilians so it's a bit of a toss up
Oh, good thing the people who want to go over the cliff aren't helping a psychopath murder innocent civilians.
... they actually want to increase the assistance to that psychopath so they can murder more innocent civilians?
Huh.
So you admit that framing the choice as "choose between getting ice cream and dying" is incredibly misleading. The choice is really "choose between 500,000 innocent people being murdered or 2,000,000 innocent people being murdered"
The conclusion isn't as obvious when you ask that question is it? I know you're gonna say you still pick the 500,000 innocents dying anyday. But then don't lie about what the choice was to make yourself feel better.
So you admit that framing the choice as “choose between getting ice cream and dying” is incredibly misleading.
Considering that "Palestinians being murdered" was not on the ballot either way? No, not really. Our choice was between "Fascism" and "Democrats making marginal improvements", and you ghouls chose to campaign for fascism to win. Congratulations.
The conclusion isn’t as obvious when you ask that question is it?
No, the conclusion is just as obvious if you aren't a fascist who thinks that more minorities dying is a good thing. But I understand that the lives of the marginalized don't matter in comparison to your need to feel smug and morally 'pure'. Enjoy the blood on your hands.
Which side do you think is more realistic to change later on? The people who want ice cream, at the very least, want to live.
Remember, no matter how beautiful, morally righteous, or gratifying your strategy is, you should really look at the results
You're right. And the results show that the idea that the election was lost because progressives stayed home is a complete historical myth.
https://www.politico.com/news/2025/06/26/2024-election-turnout-trum-00426544
This is that garbage Pew report from
… 8,942 U.S. citizens ages 18 and older who are members of the Center’s American Trends Panel (ATP). We verified their turnout in the five general elections from 2016 to 2024 using commercial voter files that collect publicly available official state turnout records.
It’s bullshit and the reason why is right there - and the fact that they ran the survey two weeks after the election. Idiocy.
You care to support your unfounded assertions? Two weeks is still pretty close to the election. You can only do so much on day-of exit polls. Two weeks later is very close to the election. And you quoted a paragraph, but I see nothing actual objectionable there. What exactly is your problem with anything you quoted? That's a very large sample size. You're just dismissing the study's methodology as "bullshit" by fiat. It's bullshit because you arbitrarily decided it was bullshit. Or more precisely, it's simply bullshit because you didn't like the conclusions reached. Blue MAGA indeed.
I do not. They are far from unfounded.
I see nothing actual objectionable there.
I’m sure.
Chuck Schumer: we beat them at their own game and got them to agree to only drive the buss halfway off the cliff as long as we all stand at the front.
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What everyone forgets is that the actual voting already happened. The bus company, Cliff driving Committee, voted before the bus embarked. They voted for the bus driver to drive off the cliff to cut spending to maintenance and health insurance to the driver and bus. There only so much the riders can say at that point
The only option the riders have to not drive off the cliff is to take control of the bus.
This is kind of a good analogy for ranked choice voting, to be honest.
More like two options: one runs the bus off the cliff while the other sets it on fire. Sure, we'll live longer in the fire scenario. Maybe we can even put it out!
But I'm still looking for the fucking exit.
Also
I only voted to drive off of a cliff as a joke. I wanted to trigger those sweet tooth ice cream eaters. I didn't want to die.
Someone told me about people, who regretted eating ice cream. What if you are allergic to milk, amd die from eating ice cream? What if ice cream is a recent creation by to make children and adults addicted to ice cream, to the rest of their lives? Driving off from a cliff is therefore preferable to ice cream, and someone told me only ice cream eaters will die in a fire.
I bet a lot of people living in Germany in the '30s said "I don't do politics" too. Oops.