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This is a tough one. I have an autistic child. I love that they’re curious, but sometimes, for all of our safety, I can’t explain why I need them to stop talking about a dangerous subject… for now.
Great. I love that you’re curious about bombs. We’re in line for security at the airport. I need you to be quiet now.
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You dropped this, king/queen/highly placed noble: \
What's with this new trend to label normal behavior as somehow related to ADHD or autism? Only morons don't want to know why ffs
Peeing is also normal behavior. But it's not normal if you have to pee every 30 minutes.
What's with this new trend of invalidating ADHD and autism symptoms simply because you don't experience it to a degree that impacts your quality of life?
ADHD and autism don't have one specific symptom. It's a thousand little things that drive you insane from having to conform to neurotypical behavior.
Let patients share their experiences without normalizing and invalidating their condition.
It's always 'everyone has ADHD these days' just like how people day 'everyone is LGBTQ these days. It's never 'underserved and underdiagnosed ADHD patients are finally getting recognition these days'.
Boys are 16x more likely to get an ADHD diagnosis than girls. The vast majority of backlash against ADHD patients on social media are against women and PoC who are finally speaking out against the medical neglect. Women traditionally present different symptoms because girls are punished more heavily for exhibiting ADHD behaviors than boys are. Same goes for autism.
Remember that a lack of diagnosis does not indicate the lack of ADHD and autism. Modern medicine is rife with systemic inequality. Undiagnosed ADHD and autism patients are frequently penalized and not rewarding for concealing their symptoms. The more effort they put into concealing them, the more heavily criticized they are for 'faking' it.
I see you guys are taking this way too seriously so ok... I'm not invalidating anything, and for that matter I haven't noticed any such trend in media either. In fact, I would go as far as to say that attributing "normal" behaviors to ADHD and autism is ultimately what invalidates these conditions. My initial comment stemmed from me seeing meme after meme about ADHD and being like, wait I'm like that too, maybe I have it. But then as this trend goes on I observed that most of the people I know also have - to some degree - most symptoms mentioned in said memes. In short I bet if one were to base the description of ADHD on the memes going round, most people could get a positive diagnosis. My personal opinion is that this has to do with societal expectations when it comes to education and employment as they have developed over the last couple of decades. We are slowly recognizing that our capitalist way of life with its pursuit of infinitely increasing productivity is not in line with human nature thus we're "creating" this condition that somehow everyone is suffering from to attribute feelings of inadequacy.
Adhd in particular is a very "everyone can relate, only people with adhd have their lives crippled by it" thing. To some degree this applies to many mental disorders (e.g. everyone has some anxiety).
The need to know why is clearly not a normal thing or I wouldnt have had the frequent experience of people getting mad at me for demanding the why or, which is still utterly confusing to me, for explaining the why when asking someone to do something.
I suppose context is important in the needing to know why. Can you give an example of a time someone got mad?
Usually when it's things that are "socially expected" but don't make sense to me in that moment. Like being asked to wait with eating food until everyone has some (still don't really get it, but "it's a social norm and people will feel bad" is sufficient for adult me since it's really nbd. As a kid no one even explained that far though, just that it'a a thing you do because you do.).
In general as an adult its been pretty rare since I've learned it's not worth the effort (and whatever if it makes people happy then cool), and if I really don't wanna do something I consider pointless (like wearing a suit - which I'd first have to buy - to a wedding in 30° heat as someone who is already very uncomfortable in shorts and t shirt in 22°) people are more likely to respect it because they can't really force me anymore.
I do think the more common one (that still happens a bunch) is when providing the why, or more generally when providing extra information. It seems to me people often assume I'm overly criticizing when I do that. Like "can you add this thing to the sheet I think it'd be helpful when <3 sentences of the context in which I think it's good to have>" tends to get worse reactions than "can you add this thing to the sheet I think it'd be helpful".
So same as the food thing, maybe it's more about wanting far more detailed explanations than about wanting one at all. But to me the less detailed one often doesn't feel like a real explanation, moreso a justification.
The other day we went to the gym with a friend and afterwards he said let's go eat at the food court. We each got stuff from different restaurants and he got his first, so he went to get a table while I was waiting for my food. As soon as he sat down he started eating so 3 minutes later when I got there he'd finished half his meal. I didn't appreciate that because the whole point was to have a chill chat whereas now he was done and I felt like I had to rush because I was wasting his time with my tardiness.
Always. I always must understand why something needs to be done before I do it. Rare exceptions in people I have an absolute trust to make decisions for me.
I couldn't cook a damn thing until Alton Brown showed me how/why cooking works.
Then I learned about all the types of cooking and why they work.
Then I looked at how the Michelin chefs do it and why they do the things they do.
Now I cook pretty well and occasionally pull off something way above my skill level.
Good Eats was an amazing show. Amazing, fun, educational! Loved it
Yeah that was the same for me. But I used Salt Fat acid as the book that I used to learn how to cook
I am currently reading into the religion of ancient germanic tribes. Sadly WE HAVE NOTHING! EVERYTHING IS LOST TO TIME!
We have a few names, but that is basicly it. Roman and christian sources are heavily bias so they cant be trustet
That's really interesting. Can we make any educated guesses about what it was like?
Well we know how they lived and their culture (as always it depends on the region), how they dressed.
Religion wise, we know they had similar gods to to the norse/north germanics (skandinavia. You know thor, odin, frija, loki aso). They put people into the swamp. Criminals and religiouse human saceafises. We know that its religiouse human sacrafises because there are also animals and tools found in swamp beds.
Burrials and funerals were different to each region and tribe. Many in the south and north west burried their people in hills, like the celts. The bodies sometimes were put in specific positions. As the romans arrived, these practises noticeablely changed. Building dedicated buildings, giving offerings and money. From what i have also read is that cremetion and burning the body was also a common practise.
But how they really worshipped, and their mythologie we have nothing on as faar as i know.
Idk if that is true but i think we also know that they, also had some spiritual leaders. Oracles. Young virgin woman that could predict the future threw bones, weather speak to the gods and stuff, that had a set place where they lived and rulers traveled to them.
Things are waaayyy worse with the celts though. We know they had these druids. But we do not know what their job in society was. We guess they were spiritual leaders, maybe also medical, maybe diplomatic. The druids were not just a closed off people. Didnt write anything down themself, the forest was holy and no one but druids was allowed to be at their meetings and in their forrest.
That's really interesting thanks!
I am working on a mod for a game (and applying that same knowledge to a game later on)
So lots of theologie research. Its crazy.
There was a group of christians in the Mesopotamian delta in the early centurys of christianity, that saw incest as a holy ritus because adam and eve were siblings and therefore performed incest
Imagine if an evil villain could delete all of the times in human history that an autistic person thought "why" about something seemingly unimportant WAYYY too hard?
Fuck... would we even have shoes? Toothbrushes? Washing machines? ..idk It would be a devastating attack upon humanity in terms of pure capability, technology and knowledge, that is for sure.
I am not saying all of the important discoveries were made by autistic people, just like we all know that we have met some autistic people (wait, you ARE one of those people aren't you!?) that are extraordinarily smart in their own way, and you can see in the people around them that they are such a powerful, clear lucid mind that they are loved and supported in their quirkiness because they move mountains (or don't). As it goes with all minds that are different in one way or another.... but certain machines and weapon systems... I just feel like... there HAS to be at least ONE autistic person behind that shit! Probably a lot of other kinds of minds too! Hopefully!
To anyone who hasn't met those autistic people or is unaware they have, damn I am sorry those people are incredibly fun and illuminating to talk to wtf. Not that anyone in this lemmy community would fall under that category, just making a point like I get so mad when people attack autistic people for so many reasons, but weapon systems are a big one that is hard to argue with, weapons aren't clubs and swords these days they are fiddly, super complex electronics warfare sensor ridden monstrosities... and they NEED the people developing and using them to understand the kind of horrifyingly long manuals some autistic people eat for breakfast while humming happily to themselves.
...and people dare to pick a fight with those people and their friends????
"I have a great idea let's have a moral panic about autistic people and ostracize/punish/seperate them out while denying them the care they need (established by science) AND THEN try to fight wars using shit like this.....
???
TL;DR People are silly
This is why I need internet. Every time a question pops up (like etymology of some word or what is the native range of some bird or other obscure stuff) I can just search for the answer. Sometimes the information doesn't exist, but even that is an answer, just not the one you wanted. Obviously it can also spiral into finding so much interesting stuff that you forget everything else and do couple hours or pointless research into subject that doesn't really matter, but that's not a downside if you look at it from a certain perspective.
What I really don't understand is how so many people end up wondering about some facts in a conversation, then everyone goes "huh, that's a good question" and just drop the subject and talk about something else. It usually takes less than a minute to do a quick search and everyone has a phone these days. So... how? How?!
I'm frankly not of the opinion that natural human curiosity should be described as autism.
It's like, what, let's not have science? Let's not have history? Let's not have medicine?
This is actually kind of bad because it encourages "normal" people to not ever question anything
To interact with the social world the way others do, we need to learn the mechanisms behind social interactions to a level that others don't. This urge to know why a social behaviour works before we can properly use it (manners, aggression, group identity, coercion, lying) carries over to physical things and systems in the real world (electricity, trains, cooking, cats, jobs, cars)
We need not understand the entire scope of the thing or concept (though we often do), but understanding the boundaries of the thing, where the walls of the box are, helps us understand the limits of our expectations for it. We know it can't leave the box. When we encounter something brand new, a behaviour, situation, environment or task, we feel fear, because at that moment, the box has infinite size, and only by learning about it can we make the box smaller and more manageable.
Yes. It's why I'm in university in middle age, acquiring science degrees. Unfortunately most of what I've learned is "we don't know yet"!
The more I read the more I think im somewhat autistic and not adhd.