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We are constantly fed a version of AI that looks, sounds and acts suspiciously like us. It speaks in polished sentences, mimics emotions, expresses curiosity, claims to feel compassion, even dabbles in what it calls creativity.

But what we call AI today is nothing more than a statistical machine: a digital parrot regurgitating patterns mined from oceans of human data (the situation hasn’t changed much since it was discussed here five years ago). When it writes an answer to a question, it literally just guesses which letter and word will come next in a sequence – based on the data it’s been trained on.

This means AI has no understanding. No consciousness. No knowledge in any real, human sense. Just pure probability-driven, engineered brilliance — nothing more, and nothing less.

So why is a real “thinking” AI likely impossible? Because it’s bodiless. It has no senses, no flesh, no nerves, no pain, no pleasure. It doesn’t hunger, desire or fear. And because there is no cognition — not a shred — there’s a fundamental gap between the data it consumes (data born out of human feelings and experience) and what it can do with them.

Philosopher David Chalmers calls the mysterious mechanism underlying the relationship between our physical body and consciousness the “hard problem of consciousness”. Eminent scientists have recently hypothesised that consciousness actually emerges from the integration of internal, mental states with sensory representations (such as changes in heart rate, sweating and much more).

Given the paramount importance of the human senses and emotion for consciousness to “happen”, there is a profound and probably irreconcilable disconnect between general AI, the machine, and consciousness, a human phenomenon.

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[–] confuser@lemmy.zip 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

The thing is, ai is compression of intelligence but not intelligence itself. That's the part that confuses people. Ai is the ability to put anything describable into a compressed zip.

[–] elrik@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I think you meant compression. This is exactly how I prefer to describe it, except I also mention lossy compression for those that would understand what that means.

[–] confuser@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 day ago

Lol woops I guess autocorrect got me with the compassion

Hardly surprising human brains are also extremely lossy. Way more lossy than AI. If we want to keep up our manifest exceptionalism, we'd better start definning narrower version of intelligence that isn't going to soon have. Embodied intelligence, is NOT one of those.

[–] Nomad@infosec.pub 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I think most people tend to overlook the most obvious advantages and are overly focused on what is supposed to be and marketed as.

No need to think how to feed a thing into google to get a decent starting point for reading. No finding the correct terminology before finding the thing you are looking for. Just ask like you would ask a knowledgeable individual and you get an overview of what you wanted to ask in the first place.

Discuss a little to get the options and then start reading and researching the everliving shit out of them to confirm all the details.

[–] grabyourmotherskeys@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Agreed.

When I was a kid we went to the library. If a card catalog didn't yield the book you needed, you asked the librarian. They often helped. No one sat around after the library wondering if the librarian was "truly intelligent".

These are tools. Tools slowly get better. Is a tool make life easier or your work better, you'll eventually use it.

Yes, there are woodworkers that eschew power tools but they are not typical. They have a niche market, and that's great, but it's a choice for the maker and user of their work.

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[–] Angelusz@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Super duper shortsighted article.

I mean, sure, some points are valid. But there's not just programmers involved, other professions such as psychologists and Philosophers and artists, doctors etc. too.

And I agree AGI probably won't emerge from binary systems. However... There's quantum computing on the rise. Latest theories of the mind and consciousness discuss how consciousness and our minds in general also appear to work with quantum states.

Finally, if biofeedback would be the deciding factor.. That can be simulated, modeled after a sample of humans.

The article is just doomsday hoo ha, unbalanced.

Show both sides of the coin...

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[–] palordrolap@fedia.io 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

And yet, paradoxically, it is far more intelligent than those people who think it is intelligent.

It's more intelligent than most people, we just have to raise the bar on what intelligence is and it will never be intelligent.

Fortunately, as long as we keep a fuzzy concept like intelligence as the yardstick of our exceptionalism, we will remain exceptionnal forever.

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[–] pastermil@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Artificial Intelligent is supposed to be intelligent.

Calling LLMs intelligent is where it's wrong.

[–] Endmaker@ani.social 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Artificial Intelligent is supposed to be intelligent.

For the record, AI is not supposed to be intelligent.

It just has to appear intelligent. It can be all smoke-and-mirrors, giving the impression that it's smart enough - provided it can perform the task at hand.

That's why it's termed artificial intelligence.

The subfield of Artificial General Intelligence is another story.

[–] nickhammes@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The field of artificial intelligence has also made incredible strides in the last decade, and the decade before that. The field of artificial general intelligence has been around for something like 70 years, and has made a really modest amount of progress in that time, on the scale of what they're trying to do.

[–] Endmaker@ani.social 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

The field of artificial general intelligence has been around for something like 70 years, and has made a really modest amount of progress in that time, on the scale of what they're trying to do.

I daresay it would stay this way until we figure out what intelligence is.

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Amen! When I say the same things this author is saying I get, "It'S NoT StAtIsTiCs! LeArN aBoUt AI bEfOrE yOu CoMmEnT, dUmBaSs!"

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