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This is a truly WTF moment about messed up responses to X11 session removal in Gnome.

2 weeks ago I published a blogpost about the upcoming plans of GNOME 49 and the eventual removal of the X11 session. Since then, instead of looking at feedback, bugs and issues related to the topic, we all collectively had to deal with the following, and I am not exaggerating one bit:

  • Fascists and Nazis
  • Wild Conspiracy Theories that make Qanon jealous
  • “Concerned” Trolling about the Accessibility of the Wayland session
  • A culture war where Wayland is Gay, and X11 is the glorious past they stole from you

In my wildest dreams I could have never made this shit up. You all need mandatory supervised access to the Internet from now on.

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[–] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 39 points 6 days ago

There is no place for Fascists within the Open Source and Free Software communities or the society at large. You will never fester your poisonous roots here

So who took the blog post down at Gnome?

[–] the_wiz@feddit.org 50 points 6 days ago (5 children)

X11 AND Wayland are for degenerates, a distraction at best but mostly just something that wastes CPU cycles and RAM.

THE FUTURE IS TERMINAL!

[–] tal@lemmy.today 12 points 6 days ago

THE FUTURE IS TERMINAL!

The past and present are also terminal.

[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 14 points 6 days ago (1 children)

obviously the future is shoving the ethernet cable up your ass and dialing in directly

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 12 points 6 days ago

That would explain 70% of the shit you can find on the internet

[–] pfr@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 6 days ago (2 children)
[–] the_wiz@feddit.org 7 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Thank you for this new rabbit hole that thanks to my pathological curiosity for software on the far side of normalcy i now HAVE to explore and waste time i should spend working on a project 😜

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[–] codexarcanum@lemmy.dbzer0.com 73 points 6 days ago (2 children)

There is no place for Fascists within the Open Source and Free Software communities or the society at large. You will never fester your poisonous roots here. Go back to the cave you crawled out from where no sunlight can reach.

NAZI! DEVS! FUCK! OFF! 💯

[–] the_wiz@feddit.org 11 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Nazis AND Devs should fuck of?

[–] gwilikers@lemmy.ml 10 points 6 days ago

No. Nazis should fuck off.

Devs should just fuck.

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[–] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 31 points 6 days ago
[–] TechieDamien@lemmy.ml 62 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Wayland is gay?! I need to get off my ass and finally switch then!

[–] LiveLM@lemmy.zip 31 points 6 days ago

Can confirm, having my different refresh rate monitors play nice with each other is extremely homosexual.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 10 points 6 days ago (1 children)

..... Does this imply that Wayland has a penis?

Asking... For science, or something, I dunno what is going on.

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[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 28 points 6 days ago (27 children)

I do think ditching X11 is still slightly premature. For all its more modern features, there's still a lot that Wayland either hasn't implemented yet or "can't do" because of its "security model."

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[–] DollyDuller@programming.dev 26 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] Mihies@programming.dev 13 points 6 days ago

Once on internet, forever on internet :) Thanks.

[–] Xylight@lemdro.id 21 points 6 days ago

Looks like I have been an early adopter of Gay™️

[–] mintiefresh@lemmy.ca 21 points 6 days ago

Haha what the hell did I just read

[–] miracleorange@beehaw.org 7 points 5 days ago

On the one hand, the guy who wrote this blog post is kinda unhinged.

On the other hand, I'm kinda living for it and agree with his views.

So really it all evens out in the end.

[–] tfm@europe.pub 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

The link is broken, unfortunately

[–] Mihies@programming.dev 4 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Alternative URLs have been posted in thread.

[–] RustyShackleford@programming.dev 10 points 6 days ago (10 children)

I use X11 over Wayland on KDE Neon for RustDesk compatibility. The Wayland support for that application is still in Beta from what I understand.

Are there other reasons why I should keep X11? I am on AMD Ryzen 9 5950X paired with a RTX 3090 FE on 570-open drivers, for reference.

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