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For all their "christianity", republicans in the US are pretty hypocritical.

Jesus actually teached that everybody deserves to get fed and housed. That everybody deserves healthcare. That people should care for other people in their community. That is essentially the core principles of socialism.

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[–] Spaniard@lemmy.world 1 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (2 children)

If anything socialism is Christianism since that's what Jesus taught, not socialism.

Anyway Pope Leo XIII explained it better in the Rerum novarum (distributism not socialism), maybe an Anarchist (on Earth) because there is no ruler but Him, no government but God's.

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[–] foggy@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

People care about helping people.

Its had a billion different names throughout history and each of them has been or will be subverted into something bad by people who seek control.

[–] Green_Mouse@piefed.social 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Do we really know what the real Jesus was like, what his teachings were, and that they are not just fairy tales created by someone? or changed by someone. I don't think there is/was much socialistic in his teachings.

For all their “christianity”, republicans in the US are pretty hypocritical

Many Christians are hypocritical in general.

[–] LesserAbe@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

No sense imagining a hypothetical Jesus, but if you go by what the bible says, Jesus said "it's easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom is heaven." He said sell all of your possessions and then follow me. The bible talks about how people in the church shared what they had in common. If someone had a need someone would sell their property and distribute it to those who needed it.

Of course they also thought Jesus was going to return soon, within their lifetimes, and bring a perfect world. Not wait over 2,000 years

[–] owenfromcanada@lemmy.ca 1 points 19 hours ago

The best records we have of Jesus' teachings are the gospel books that are typically referenced. And there are enough references to Jesus of Nazareth in other texts to suggest this is what he was like and taught.

Jesus' teachings on government and social structures are nuanced and difficult to apply to our human structures, because he proposed a government ruled by a perfectly good, benevolent monarch (which, in theory, is a great system if you can guarantee the monarch is really perfectly good). He preached a lot about "the kingdom of God" and contrasted it to how we do things on earth. So the point was never to provide a blueprint of how we should do government, but that there was something above all earthly governments that superceded it all.

Unfortunately, people have used those teachings in very bad ways (the same reasoning that the religious leaders used to kill Jesus). All of that to say--there are a lot of congregations that have more in common with the Pharisees than the early church.

[–] CXORA@aussie.zone 0 points 13 hours ago (4 children)

Jesus was an authoritarian. He believed there should be one being with ultimate power and control who everyone else should obey unquestioningly.

He believed that this being was better than every living person. That any person who disobeyed the ruler should be tortured. That we are only alive, only well, only happy, if the ruler permits it.

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[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 3 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

The New Testament has been around for a couple of thousand years. The concept of socialism has only been around for less than 200.

I wonder, if religion survives for another thousand years, what will people then say Jesus taught regarding various other isms that have yet to be constructed.

[–] pocker_machine@lemmy.world 2 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

I’m not religious. But your point doesn’t make sense. Being around X number of years doesn’t contradict with the possibility of one idea being a part of the other. I guess that’s what the user is trying to say, but I’m not sure how factual it is.

[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 1 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

It’s an observation. Is it not an accurate one? I’m not sure how it “makes sense” or not.

But the implication is, someone might use religious text to endorse some other concept. Does that make the concept more or less valid? Does that make the religious text more or less valid? I don’t know.

[–] pocker_machine@lemmy.world 4 points 21 hours ago

To be clear, OP is not questioning the validity either. You are, and that’s a separate discussion.

If I tell you “playing with fire is risky”, and then you bring up an old book to me where is it written “playing with fire is risky”, the discussion is not about whether I told you that from the book. It is not about whether my advice is valid or the book is valid. The discussion is just that people who had read the book should have already known “playing with fire is risky”.

[–] Meltdown@lemmy.world 1 points 20 hours ago

If one set of ideological principles conforms to another, why is it relevant if one of them hasn't been given a specific name yet? Are the principles not still comparable?

[–] Meltdown@lemmy.world 2 points 20 hours ago (14 children)

Submission to a single all-powerful ruler seems like textbook authoritarianism

[–] 1rre@discuss.tchncs.de -1 points 18 hours ago

The intersection between Authoritarianism and Socialism:

It's just a regular venn diagram

[–] DaedalousIlios@pawb.social -2 points 19 hours ago (4 children)

Jesus Christ believes himself to be the Jewish Messiah. The man literally was going to be king of Israel after kicking the Romans out of their land. So like... Yeah. He was also an authoritarian.

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[–] INeedMana@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

For all their “christianity”, republicans in the US are pretty hypocritical

No, no, you were indoctrinated by people with agenda
Jesus was saying, and everyone was obeying, like a good person does

/s in case it's not clear

[–] daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Jesus also teached to devote live to a fictional character and to respect judaism traditions. And in the apostols carts there're homophobic rants.

That's not socialist in my book.

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 4 points 1 day ago

And in the apostols carts there’s homophobic rants.

Saulus/Paulus. Yeah it all went downhill pretty quickly.

[–] plyth@feddit.org 1 points 22 hours ago

Render unto Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and unto God the things that are God's

That's pro dictatorship in perpetuity, aka fascism.

Jesus wants people to help each other voluntarily and not by the power of the state.

[–] MNByChoice@midwest.social 1 points 23 hours ago

There are evangelical thought leaders that preach the opposite. They say liberals are wrong about all of that.

And people believe up is down.

[–] vivalapivo@lemmy.today 0 points 18 hours ago

No, but it shows how little progress we did as humanity for the last 2000 years

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