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We will use Grok 3.5 (maybe we should call it 4), which has advanced reasoning, to rewrite the entire corpus of human knowledge, adding missing information and deleting errors.

Then retrain on that.

Far too much garbage in any foundation model trained on uncorrected data.

Source.

More Context

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[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 49 points 1 day ago (1 children)

So where will Musk find that missing information and how will he detect "errors"?

[–] 18107@aussie.zone 17 points 1 day ago

I expect he'll ask Grok and believe the answer.

[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

I'm just seeing bakes in the lies.

[–] ViatorOmnium@piefed.social 42 points 1 day ago

Because neural networks aren't known to suffer from model collapse when using their output as training data. /s

Most billionaires are mediocre sociopaths but Elon Musk takes it to the "Emperors New Clothes" levels of intellectual destitution.

[–] TeddE@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

Unironically Orwellian

[–] FireWire400@lemmy.world 27 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

How high on ketamine is he?

3.5 (maybe we should call it 4)

I think calling it 3.5 might already be too optimistic

[–] Antaeus@lemmy.world 28 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Elon should seriously see a medical professional.

[–] D_C@lemm.ee 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'll have you know he's seeing a medical professional at least once a day. Sometimes multiple times!!!!

(On an absolutely and completely unrelated note ketamine dealers are medical professionals, yeah?)

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[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 61 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I elaborated below, but basically Musk has no idea WTF he’s talking about.

If I had his “f you” money, I’d at least try a diffusion or bitnet model (and open the weights for others to improve on), and probably 100 other papers I consider low hanging fruit, before this absolutely dumb boomer take.

He’s such an idiot know it all. It’s so painful whenever he ventures into a field you sorta know.

But he might just be shouting nonsense on Twitter while X employees actually do something different. Because if they take his orders verbatim they’re going to get crap models, even with all the stupid brute force they have.

[–] maxfield@pf.z.org 157 points 1 day ago (8 children)

The plan to "rewrite the entire corpus of human knowledge" with AI sounds impressive until you realize LLMs are just pattern-matching systems that remix existing text. They can't create genuinely new knowledge or identify "missing information" that wasn't already in their training data.

What he means is correct the model so all it models is racism and far-right nonsense.

[–] SinningStromgald@lemmy.world 84 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Remember the "white genocide in South Africa" nonsense? That kind of rewriting of history.

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[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 35 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Training an AI model on AI output? Isn't that like the one big no-no?

[–] breecher@sh.itjust.works 22 points 1 day ago (1 children)

We have seen from his many other comments about this, that he just wants a propaganda bot that regurgitates all of the right wing talking points. So that will definitely be easier to achieve if he does it that way.

[–] Schadrach@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 1 day ago

that he just wants a propaganda bot that regurgitates all of the right wing talking points.

Then he has utterly failed with Grok. One of my new favorite pastimes is watching right wingers get angry that Grok won't support their most obviously counterfactual bullshit and then proceed to try to argue it into saying something they can declare a win from.

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[–] Deflated0ne@lemmy.world 51 points 1 day ago

Dude is gonna spend Manhattan Project level money making another stupid fucking shitbot. Trained on regurgitated AI Slop.

Glorious.

[–] StonerCowboy@lemm.ee 8 points 1 day ago
[–] kamen@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago

Don't feed the trolls.

[–] bieren@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 day ago

Not sure if has been said already. Fuck musk.

[–] Saleh@feddit.org 18 points 1 day ago

We have never been at war with Eurasia. We have always been at war with East Asia

[–] squaresinger@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago

First error to correct:

We will use Grok 3.5 (maybe we should call it 4), which has advanced reasoning, to rewrite the entire corpus of human knowledge, adding missing ~~information~~ errors and deleting ~~errors~~ information.

[–] Lumidaub@feddit.org 83 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

adding missing information

Did you mean: hallucinate on purpose?

Wasn't he going to lay off the ketamine for a while?

Edit: ... i hadnt seen the More Context and now i need a fucking beer or twnety fffffffffu-

[–] Carmakazi@lemmy.world 40 points 1 day ago (1 children)

He means rewrite every narrative to his liking, like the benevolent god-sage he thinks he is.

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[–] oliver@lemmy.1984.network 22 points 1 day ago

So "Deleting errors" meaning rewriting history, further fuckin' up facts and definitely sowing hatred and misinformation. Just call it like it is, techbro‘s new reality. 🖕🏻

[–] FreakinSteve@lemmy.world 2 points 20 hours ago

By the way, when you refuse to band together, organize, and dispose of these people, they entrench themselves further in power. Everyone ignored Kari Lake as a harmless kook and she just destroyed Voice of America. That loudmouthed MAGA asshole in your neighborhood is going to commit a murder.

advanced reasoning

If it's so advanced, it should be able to reason out that all human knowledge is standing in the shoulders of others and how errors have prompted us to explore other areas and learn things we never would have otherwise.

iamverysmart

[–] Flukas88@feddit.it 11 points 1 day ago

When you think he can't be more of a wanker with an ameba brain.... He surprises you

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