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We will use Grok 3.5 (maybe we should call it 4), which has advanced reasoning, to rewrite the entire corpus of human knowledge, adding missing information and deleting errors.

Then retrain on that.

Far too much garbage in any foundation model trained on uncorrected data.

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[–] ZoteTheMighty@midwest.social 12 points 9 hours ago

I wonder how many papers he's read since ChatGPT released about how bad it is to train AI on AI output.

[–] releaseTheTomatoes@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Spoiler: He's gonna fix the "missing" information with MISinformation.

[–] uairhahs@lemmy.world 4 points 10 hours ago (1 children)
[–] ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one 2 points 10 hours ago

She’s unfortunately can’t see you because of financial difficulties. You gotta give her money like I do. One day, I will see her in person.

Delusional and grasping for attention.

[–] Smokeless7048@lemmy.world 40 points 14 hours ago

"and then on retrain on that"

Thats called model collapse.

[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 29 points 15 hours ago

So just making shit up.

[–] Crikeste@lemm.ee 28 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

So they’re just going to fill it with Hitler’s world view, got it.

Typical and expected.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 17 points 14 hours ago

I mean, this is the same guy who said we'd be living on Mars in 2025.

[–] AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip 26 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Lol turns out elon has no fucking idea about how llms work

[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 13 points 15 hours ago

It's pretty obvious where the white genocide "bug" came from.

[–] copdeb@crazypeople.online 2 points 9 hours ago

Humm....this doesn't sound great

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 10 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

"We'll fix the knowledge base by adding missing information and deleting errors - which only an AI trained on the fixed knowledge base could do."

[–] TheDeadlySquid@lemm.ee 48 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

“Deleting Errors” should sound alarm bells in your head.

[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 8 points 15 hours ago

And the adding missing information doesn't. Isn't that just saying we are going to make shit up.

[–] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 18 points 16 hours ago

Huh. I'm not sure if he's understood the alignment problem quite right.

[–] JustAPenguin@lemmy.world 37 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

The thing that annoys me most is that there have been studies done on LLMs where, when trained on subsets of output, it produces increasingly noisier output.

Sources (unordered):

Whatever nonsense Muskrat is spewing, it is factually incorrect. He won't be able to successfully retrain any model on generated content. At least, not an LLM if he wants a successful product. If anything, he will be producing a model that is heavily trained on censored datasets.

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 3 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

It's not so simple, there are papers on zero data 'self play' or other schemes for using other LLM's output.

Distillation is probably the only one you'd want for a pretrain, specifically.

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[–] vala@lemmy.world 15 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

What the fuck? This is so unhinged. Genuine question, is he actually this dumb or he's just saying complete bullshit to boost stock prices?

[–] cactopuses@lemm.ee 9 points 16 hours ago

my guess is yes.

[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 7 points 15 hours ago

He knows more ... about knowledge... than... anyone alive now

[–] wolframhydroxide@sh.itjust.works 12 points 17 hours ago

Yes! We should all wholeheartedly support this GREAT INNOVATION! There is NOTHING THAT COULD GO WRONG, so this will be an excellent step to PERMANENTLY PERFECT this WONDERFUL AI.

[–] sturmblast@lemmy.world 12 points 17 hours ago

Fuck Elon Musk

[–] UnsavoryMollusk@lemmy.world 20 points 19 hours ago

Yes please do that Elon, please poison grok with garbage until full model collapse.

[–] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 22 points 19 hours ago

which has advanced reasoning

No it doesn't.

[–] Hossenfeffer@feddit.uk 70 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

He's been frustrated by the fact that he can't make Wikipedia 'tell the truth' for years. This will be his attempt to replace it.

[–] wrinkledoo@sh.itjust.works 5 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

There are thousands of backups of wikipedia, and you can download the entire thing legally, for free.

He'll never be rid of it.

Wikipedia may even outlive humanity, ever so slightly.

[–] sthetic@lemmy.ca 2 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Seconds after the last human being dies, the Wikipedia page is updated to read:

Humans (Homo sapiens) or modern humans were the most common and widespread species of primate

[–] BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 2 points 11 hours ago

And then 30 seconds after that it'll get reverted because the edit contains primary sources.

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[–] bufalo1973@europe.pub 98 points 1 day ago (1 children)

[My] translation: "I want to rewrite history to what I want".

[–] Klear@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That was my first impression, but then it shifted into "I want my AI to be the shittiest of them all".

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 18 points 23 hours ago

Why not both?

[–] Naevermix@lemmy.world 68 points 23 hours ago (4 children)

Elon Musk, like most pseudo intellectuals, has a very shallow understanding of things. Human knowledge is full of holes, and they cannot simply be resolved through logic, which Mush the dweeb imagines.

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[–] FreakinSteve@lemmy.world 10 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

I read about this in a popular book by some guy named Orwell

[–] Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 6 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

Wasn't he the children's author who published the book about a talking animals learning the value of hard work or something?

[–] rmuk@feddit.uk 2 points 12 hours ago

That'd be esteemed British author Georgie Orrell, author of such whimsical classics as "Now the Animals Are Running The Farm!", "My Big Day Out At Wigan Pier" and, of course, "Winston's Zany Eighties Adventure".

[–] FreakinSteve@lemmy.world 3 points 15 hours ago

The very one!

[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 16 points 19 hours ago

Is he still carrying his little human shield around with him everywhere or can someone Luigi this fucker already?

[–] nthavoc@lemmy.today 6 points 16 hours ago

Dude wants to do a lot of things and fails to accomplish what he says he's doing to do or ends up half-assing it. So let him take Grok and run it right into the ground like an autopiloted Cybertruck rolling over into a flame trench of an exploding Startship rocket still on the pad shooting flames out of tunnels made by the Boring Company.

[–] RattlerSix@lemmy.world 36 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

I never would have thought it possible that a person could be so full of themselves to say something like that

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[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 14 points 20 hours ago

I remember when I learned what corpus meant too

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 10 points 19 hours ago

if you won't tell my truth I'll force you to acknowledge my truth.

nothing says abusive asshole more than this.

remember when grok called e*on and t**mp a nazi? good times

[–] namingthingsiseasy@programming.dev 56 points 1 day ago (23 children)

Whatever. The next generation will have to learn to trust whether the material is true or not by using sources like Wikipedia or books by well-regarded authors.

The other thing that he doesn't understand (and most "AI" advocates don't either) is that LLMs have nothing to do with facts or information. They're just probabilistic models that pick the next word(s) based on context. Anyone trying to address the facts and information produced by these models is completely missing the point.

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[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 106 points 1 day ago (2 children)

"If we take this 0.84 accuracy model and train another 0.84 accuracy model on it that will make it a 1.68 accuracy model!"

~Fucking Dumbass

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[–] leftthegroup@lemmings.world 6 points 18 hours ago

Instead, he should improve humanity by dying. So much easier and everyone would be so much happier.

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