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Well I am shocked, SHOCKED I say! Well, not that shocked.

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[–] simple@piefed.social 47 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Unfortunately gamers aren't the real target audience for new GPUs, it's AI bros. Even if nobody buys a 4090/5090 for gaming, they're always out of stock as LLM enthusiasts and small companies use them for AI.

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[–] arc99@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Not surprised. Many of these high end GPUs are bought not for gaming but for bitcoin mining and demand has driven prices beyond MSRP in some cases. Stupidly power hungry and overpriced.

My GPU which is an RTX2060 is getting a little long in the tooth and I'll hand it off to one of the kids for their PC but I need to find something that is a tangible performance improvement without costing eleventy stupid dollars. Nvidia seems to be lying a lot about the performance of that 5060 so I might look at AMD or Intel next time around. Probably need to replace my PSU while I'm at it.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

My kid got the 2060, I bought a RX 6400, I don't need the hairy arms any more.

Then again I have become old and grumpy, playing old games.

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[–] coacoamelky@lemm.ee 142 points 2 days ago (5 children)

The good games don't need a high end GPU.

[–] Railcar8095@lemm.ee 23 points 2 days ago

Terraria minimum specs: "don't worry bro"

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[–] JordanZ@lemmy.world 103 points 2 days ago (12 children)

When did it just become expected that everybody would upgrade GPU’s every year and that’s suppose to be normal? I don’t understand people upgraded phones every year either. Both of those things are high cost for minimal gains between years. You really need 3+ years for any meaningful gains. Especially over the last few years.

[–] vividspecter@lemm.ee 54 points 2 days ago (5 children)

It doesn't help that the gains have been smaller, and the prices higher.

I've got a RX 6800 I bought in 2020, and nothing but the 5090 is a significant upgrade, and I'm sure as fuck not paying that kind of money for a video card.

[–] harxanimous@lemmy.today 1 points 1 day ago

Well that depends on your definition of significant. Don't get me wrong, the state of the GPU market is not consumer friendly, but even an RX 9070 provides over a 50% performance uplift over the RX 6800.

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[–] MyOpinion@lemmy.today 19 points 2 days ago

I am tired of be treated like a fool. No more money for them.

[–] Nikki@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 day ago

the most i use my gpu for at this point is minecraft shaders, i dont plan on upgrading in 10+ years

[–] WereCat@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (3 children)

The progress is just not there.

I've got RX 6800 XT for €400 in May 2023 which was at that point almost a 3y old card. Fastforward to today, the RX 9060 XT 16GB costs more and is still slower in raster. Only thing going for it is FSR4, better encoder and a bit better RT performance about which I couldn't care less about.

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[–] TheObviousSolution@lemm.ee 5 points 1 day ago

Oh totes. NVIDIA continuing to lie even more blatantly to their face, driver bricking issues on updates, missing GPU ROPS performance, even more burn problems with a connector they knew continued to be problematic and lied about it, they and their retail partners releasing very limited inventory and then serving internal scalping while also being increasingly hostile to the rest of their consumers, ray tracing performance improvements they have to exclusive push in certain games and the newest most expensive hardware to actually get any benefit from their cards, false MSRP pricing and no recourse for long time loyal customers except a lottery in the US while the rest of the regions get screwed. Totes just that it's "too expensive", because when have gamers ever splurged on their hobby?

[–] bluesheep@lemm.ee 50 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Paying Bills Takes Priority Over Chasing NVIDIA’s RTX 5090

Yeah no shit, what a weird fucking take

[–] SharkAttak@kbin.melroy.org 16 points 2 days ago

But why spend to ""eat food"" when you can have RAYTRACING!!!2

[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago

Food, not ROBLOX.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 45 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (11 children)

In the US, a new RTX 5090 currently costs $2899 at NewEgg, and has a max power draw of 575 watts.

(Lowest price I can find)

... That is a GPU, with roughly the cost and power usage of an entire, quite high end, gaming PC from 5 years ago... or even just a reasonably high end PC from right now.

...

The entire move to the realtime raytracing paradigm, which has enabled AAA game devs to get very sloppy with development by not really bothering to optimize any lighting, nor textures... which has necessitated the invention of intelligent temporal frame upscaling, and frame generation... the whole, originally advertised point of this all was to make hi fidelity 4k gaming an affordable reality.

This reality is a farce.

...

Meanwhile, if you jump down to 1440p, well, I've got a future build plan sitting in a NewEgg wishlist right now.

RX 9070 (220 W) + Minisforum BD795i SE (mobo + non removeable, high end AMD laptop CPU with performance comparable to a 9900X, but about half the wattage draw) ... so far my pretax total for the whole build is under $1500, and, while I need to double and triple check this, I think the math on the power draw works out to a 650 Watt power supply being all you'd need... potentially with enough room to also add in some extra internal HDD storage drives, ie, you've got leftover wattage headroom.

If you want to go a bit over the $1500 mark, you could fit this all in a console sized ITX case.

That is almost half the cost as the RTX 5090 alone, and will get you over 90fps in almost all modern games, with ultra settings at 1440p, though you will have to futz around with intelligent upscaling and frame gen if you want realtime raytracing as well with similar framerates, and realistically, probably wait another quarter or two for AMD driver support and FSR 4 to become a bit more mature and properly implemented in said games.

Or you could swap out for a maybe a 5070 (non TI, the TI is $1000 more) Nvidia card, but seeing as I'm making a linux gaming pc, you know, for the performance boost from not running Windows, AMD mesa drivers are where you wanna be.

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[–] Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I bought my most expensive dream machine last year (when the RTX-4090 was still the best) and I am proud of it. I hope it'll be my right for at least 10 years.

But it was expensive.

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[–] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 28 points 2 days ago (2 children)

My new gpu was a steam deck.

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[–] LostXOR@fedia.io 56 points 2 days ago (18 children)

For the price of one 5090 you could build 2-3 midrange gaming PCs lol. It's crazy that anyone would even consider buying it unless they're rich or actually need it for something important.

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[–] hark@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm still using my GTX 1070. There just aren't enough new high-spec games that I'm interested in to justify paying the outrageous prices that NVIDIA is demanding and that AMD follows too closely behind on. Even if there were enough games, I'd refuse to upgrade out of principle, I will not reward price gouging. There are so many older/lower-spec games that I haven't yet played that run perfectly for me to care. So many games, in fact, that I couldn't get through all of them in my lifetime.

[–] Ougie@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Lezgooo 1070 crew reporting in (☞゚ヮ゚)☞

[–] moktor@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I'm still surviving on my RX580 4GB. Limping along these days, but no way I can justify the price of a new GPU.

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[–] Allemaniac@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I'm sitting on a 3060 TI and waiting for the 40-series prices to drop further. Ain't no universe where I would pay full price for the newest gens. I don't need to render anything for work with my PC, so a 2-3 year old GPU will do just fine

[–] Warehouse@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago

I'm pretty sure that production of the 40 series has stopped. The 50 series uses the same node.

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[–] Goodtoknow@lemmy.ca 13 points 2 days ago (5 children)

GTX 1060 6Gb still going strong!

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 3 points 1 day ago

Runs FFXIV at 1440p.

Runs HL Alyx on my Rift.

Runs everything prior to this gen.

If I need to run a more modern game, I'll use my PS5.

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[–] Xenny@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Rimworld doesn't need a new gpu

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