Guess we find out tomorrow
this post was submitted on 13 Jun 2025
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THE POLICE PROBLEM
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The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.
99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it's not on this page.
When cops are caught breaking the law, they're investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers' names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.
When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with 'law enforcement experience' and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It's called "Wandering Cops."
When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: "testilying." Yet it's almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.
Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don't, they aren't cops for long.
The legal doctrine of "qualified immunity" renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past 'qualified immunity' is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.
All this is a path to a police state.
In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.
Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.
That's the solution.
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• A demonstrator's guide to understanding riot munitions
• Cops aren't supposed to be smart
• Killings by law enforcement in Canada
• Killings by law enforcement in the United Kingdom
• Killings by law enforcement in the United States
• Know your rights: Filming the police
• Three words. 70 cases. The tragic history of 'I can’t breathe' (as of 2020)
• Police aren't primarily about helping you or solving crimes.
• Police lie under oath, a lot
• Police spin: An object lesson in Copspeak
• Police unions and arbitrators keep abusive cops on the street
• Shielded from Justice: Police Brutality and Accountability in the United States
• When the police knock on your door
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Projection
...if you point a gun at them, throw a brick or a firebomb. I guess I'd defend myself too in that case.
& guess who's cheering for them.
Bad cop no donut.
Aren't the names and identities of these officers a matter of public record?
"My gun is much bigger (and beautifuler) than yours"
Yes he's terrible, but also, if you point a gun at a cop [person with a gun] you should be aware that they might shoot you first.
And if they are part of a group of people with guns, they may not shoot first but one of the other guys with guns will go after you.
Killing someone for throwing a brick though, that's not even.
I'm sure it will probably be applied for anyone throwing a brick, as you say. But there's video of some stupid fuck parked on a motorcycle throwing heavy rocks at police car windshields while they're driving past at relatively high speeds. Now that brick & rock, if it hits just right.....could cause a horrible accident, could just through & physically injure a cop, etc. I remember reading a story about someone tossing frozen spaghetti off a freeway onto cars, kinda random/hilarious if it didn't have horrific consequences attached.
Long-short, some of that rock & brick throwing I'm seeing at moving police cars at high speed could, and should, be construed as attempted murder. That isn't even close to peaceful protesting, and even if they're dumb enough to not think of it as attempted murder, that doesn't excuse them from the consequences of their actions.
I SUPPORT this Patriot! How DARE we let people have FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS! Don't they know the ONLY Amendment that Matters is ANY that lets us KILL KIDS?
Them sound like fighting words...
On an unrelated note you shouldn't start anything you are willing to finish