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[–] AlteredEgo@lemmy.ml 26 points 6 days ago (6 children)

I really liked lemm.ee because it didn't defederate from the radical socialist and communist spectrum of political speech.

But the other issue with a bigger instance like lemm.ee going down is that as long as communities can't be moved (including users and content) to other instances, the lemmy project will fail. Because then only centralization in a few big instances is viable, and those big instances are going to become valuable and sold to plutocrats.

[–] Ideonek@lemm.ee 7 points 6 days ago (1 children)

That's a disturbingly good point.

[–] Tweak@feddit.uk 6 points 6 days ago (1 children)

To be fair, lemm.ee didn't really act as host to any major communities to begin with. So communities aren't really the loss here, and it could be that having at least a few big active communities on an instance is a key part of maintaining its long term viability.

Also, all the text posts and comments from lemm.ee will still remain on other instances. I'm sure the instance could also back up content, if the specific admin so desired to re-host.

[–] AlteredEgo@lemmy.ml 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

Yeah the biggest communities seem to be movies and television, and my guess is that they'll be gobbled up by lemmy.world. But every community migration like currently looses subscriber members, and split communities mean a lack of interaction. Social network require a critical mass, and also benefit from centralization. While federation works great for users there isn't a real solution for communities yet. There is a lot of randomness involved, like who gets to be the first to make a community might be a bad mod in the long term. For example the reddit r/climate mod is a climate skeptic. Not sure if there is any better solution.

I'm just wondering how the best design for this problem would look like. Maybe the mod of a community could have some kind of key that he can transfer to another instance and automatically transfer all the user subscriptions and link the post history with them.

[–] Tweak@feddit.uk 2 points 5 days ago

For me, the bigger problem with how Lemmy is federated is the way comments and posts have unique IDs for every instance. You can't easily find a comment or post from one instance on any other instance. With users, you just have /user/username@instance, what we need is /post/###@instance or /comment/###@instance. Instead, we just have /post/### and the ### is different everywhere (I think it's just sequential for every post/comment the instance federates).

Maybe there's some reason they did it this way, but it feels like the better solution is to have the original host instance decide the number, then every other instance just use their number and their @instance.

Pretty sure that was on the bug list 2 years ago.

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[–] ghosthacked@lemmy.wtf 12 points 6 days ago

I'm an .ee refugee. I just hope this stuff doesn't become the norm where instances get shut down

[–] trash_@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 6 days ago

Lemm.ee was my home instance. I will miss it dearly. I wasn't as active as I probably could have been, but I'm still sad.

[–] Gort@lemmy.sdf.org 11 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

It was great while it lasted, and I thank those that ran it. A breath of fresh air after initially being on an instance that decided to nanny its users by defederating from instances for no good reasons.

I have a backup account on sdf.org, so I'm now using that as my main instance. Thanks to those who run it.

[–] ThorrJo@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 6 days ago

Yeah, SDF is a good choice (and a very interesting org in its own right)

[–] Razzazzika@lemm.ee 4 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Shit I'm out of the loop, is my account being deleted or something?

[–] irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 5 days ago

End of june, lemm.ee is shutting down.

don't worry though, most communities are available on other instances.

Just make a new account on lemmy.zip, export your settings/subscriptions from lemm.ee and import them on .zip.

[–] xeekei@lemmy.zip 3 points 5 days ago

Yes. End of june.

[–] roserose56@lemmy.ca 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Out of loop? We had posts and posts about lemm.ee going down, how did you missed it?
Anyway, end of June lemm.ee is going down, which means it won't be accessible! If you want to access lemmy after that, you have to find a new instance. Have a look here to search for a new instance.

Don't forget to export your profile settings from settings > Import/Export Settings > export.

[–] Razzazzika@lemm.ee 2 points 5 days ago

Been busy with moving and stuff. This is the first I saw anything. Thanks for the info.

[–] Sylvartas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 6 days ago (3 children)

I'm sorry but the best is dbzero. Lemm.ee was a damn good instance too though

[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I think it adds to our mystique that not even our regulars can spell it correctly :D

[–] Sylvartas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 days ago

I will now try to misspell it in a new way every time 🫡

[–] Tweak@feddit.uk 8 points 6 days ago

The lemm.ee admin is a shit hot developer though, his instance was generally more robust than all the others, and he helped other instances when they had various problems. It's a shame he wasn't the lead lemmy developer, although I'm sure he doesn't have the time for such a big undertaking.

[–] irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] Sylvartas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 days ago

I saw that, which is why I allowed myself to gas it up here.

Again, just to be clear, no disrespect meant to lemm.ee refugees or the former admin, I just wanted to rep my instance to any potential former lemm.ee users because I like it here !

[–] orochi02@feddit.org 2 points 5 days ago (2 children)

So what about all the valuble content in the Communities posted?

[–] Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] orochi02@feddit.org 1 points 11 hours ago

Ootl, Whats piefed

[–] irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 5 days ago

Posts that propagated to other communities will stay on servers.

Images will break though.

[–] BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

what do i do now i only use jerboa how do i change instances

[–] irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Go to https://lemm.ee/settings in a web browser (I'm not sure its in jerboa), and export your settings.
Make an account at lemmy.zip or lemmy.cafe, go to settings there, and import the settings file.

then, log out of jerboa, and log in with your new account.

[–] Ideonek@lemm.ee 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Can you explain why Lemmy.zip or Lemmy.cafe specifcaly?

[–] irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 days ago

lemmy.zip is the most similar, it has a great admin and a similar federation policy.

Lemmy.cafe was just the second instance to come into my head.

[–] TWeaK@lemm.ee 3 points 6 days ago

NOoooooooo :(

lemm.ee has been hands down my favourite instance, it's genuinely depressing that it's going.

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

I'm tearing up :'(

Thx for all the severing!

<3

[–] SnarkoPolo@lemmy.zip 2 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Tell me about it. My JSON file with all my settings won't upload, so l have to start over, day one.

[–] Demigodrick@lemmy.zip 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Hey, we are aware - I've made a comment here: https://lemmy.zip/post/40323214/19304384

Tldr - try with a vpn!

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[–] irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 days ago

You should probably ask about this in !home@lemmy.zip

[–] fossilite@fosstodon.org 2 points 6 days ago

@irelephant

Thanks to all devs and admins, you ran a great instance, best one around. And for the toxic self-hating trolls with daddy issues... you are not worth the time.

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