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"It has been dubbed Britain's 'most woke' roundabout because drivers must give priority to pedestrians, then cyclists, and then other cars and lorries before continuing on themselves. Locals have pointed out the priority for cyclists and pedestrians is unnecessary as only cars and lorries regularly use the Boundary Way route."

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[–] StarlightDust@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 3 weeks ago

They trialed these particular roundabouts a few years ago elsewhere after spending literal years building it in the middle of a junction. Nobody likes them, they require even more crossing and attention, as a pedestrian and you feel rushed to move.

[–] cynar@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago (15 children)

My issue with this roundabout is that it's the worst of all worlds. It's unusual, and complex for cars. Given how bad the average driver is, I wouldn't want to be a cyclist or pedestrian dealing with this.

While it has its problems, Milton Keynes does non-car traffic quite well. It has "red ways" that cut under or over the main trunk roads. It's possible to reach most of the city without having to cross a major road.

While retrofitting this is harder, surely they could come up with something better, for that sort of money.

Oh and as for the woke comments. I've found describing it/replacing it with empathy/empathetic works well. It seems to really annoy the gammon crowd, while turning those on the fence away from it, hard.

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[–] mtchristo@lemm.ee 1 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

2m for some asphalt. Landscaping and paint ?? That's very expensive.

[–] angelmountain@feddit.nl 1 points 3 weeks ago

Probably a good investment all things considered (safer roundabout = less accidents, better cycling = more cyclist = less fat people and pollution from cars and more space on the road for the remaining cars)

[–] psivchaz@reddthat.com 1 points 3 weeks ago

I don't know if it's what happened here but I have noticed that sometimes people use highly speculative math for things like this. Like the actual cost of landscaping and paint was 100k, but if you assume that everyone who would use this had to divert to another route that took 10m, and they all average £15 an hour, and 10,000 people per hour could have used this, then there's £9,000 lost per hour of construction.

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 1 points 3 weeks ago

To be fair it is unnecessary in that they are giving right away to anyone currently in traffic regardless. The priority wording is meaningless and likely lip service for the bike crowd. At least it seems that way. Maybe I am misunderstanding. The only benefit I would say is that it makes clear bikes and pedestrians are allowed.

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