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[–] Susurrus@lemm.ee 42 points 1 week ago (2 children)

You could say smoking is one of the most human activities ever. Does nothing but actively harm and potentially kill everything around you. Just what we're the best at.

But seriously now. Can we speed up smoking bans? Like, everywhere?

[–] REDACTED@infosec.pub 12 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

But seriously now. Can we speed up smoking bans? Like, everywhere?

Some European countries, including mine, has decided to raise the smoking age by 1 every year, essentially banning the next generation from smoking. Not really rapid or speeding up, but future is looking good

There was a slight problem where some people were allowed to smoke for portion of the year after birthday and before the age increase, for every year

[–] timbuck2themoon@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 week ago (3 children)

That I can't get on board with personally. Everyone has a vice.

Imagine doing that with cannabis or drinking. Probably wouldn't get near the support even though those are also vices.

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[–] kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com 31 points 1 week ago
[–] neon_nova@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I live in a country with a strict outdoor smoking ban and I love it.

There are dedicated smoking areas for people to smoke outdoors, but they are really small and cramped with smokers.

It’s actually really nice, you never see or smell people smoking unless you wonder too close to the designated smoking areas which are often really out of the way.

The streets are not really clean here, but at least it’s not cigarette butts. Even things like vapes need to be smoked in a designated area, but sometimes people do it on the street anyway.

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[–] JoeKrogan@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago

Good i hope more countries adopt this. Türkiye is terrible for this, lovely country and people but there are smokers almost everywhere.

[–] BetaBlake@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago

Europeans should get a new hobby, smoking is gross and you smell like burnt shit

[–] Bieren@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago

Banning children seems like it would be more effective.

[–] PattyP@lemm.ee 14 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (8 children)

This comment section is a disaster, just as bad as reddit. Comments of no substance on the side of popular opinion get upvotes, and waves of downvotes come for anyone who disagrees even a little, and even if they do it in a reasonable way.

I’m mildly asthmatic so I don’t smoke, vape, etc. I have tried a few times and it is simply too much for my lungs to cope with. I still think banning people from smoking in public parks or on beaches is a bit much, and not doing the same with vaping seems like a strange double standard. I had a college roommate who both vaped and smoked, and the vaping bothered me more. I still put up with it.

Hopefully enforcement is reasonable - respectful smokers who deliberately try to keep their distance should be allowed to enjoy themselves, but I understand prosecuting(?) those who show no care and smoke right next to nonsmokers.

[–] null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 week ago

Comments of no substance on the side of popular opinion get upvotes, and waves of downvotes come for anyone who disagrees even a little, and even if they do it in a reasonable way.

Lemmy seems much worse for this than reddit TBH.

There's a number of topics about which any dissent is met with vehement derision. As in those engaging in wrong think are assholes.

I don't really know of course but I suspect it's because lemmy has a narrower demographic than reddit. Opinions are just generally more homogeneous. I guess I'm describing an echo chamber.

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[–] Artyom@lemm.ee 13 points 1 week ago

Dang, France is really about to take away the one thing that the USA has always been ahead of them on.

[–] ihatefascist@lemm.ee 9 points 1 week ago (3 children)

To protect children, meanwhile the soil is filled with cancer-inducing products pumped away illegally by big chemistry plants. In belgium and netherlands we can barely eat our own produce thanks to this. When are we gonna ban them??

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 1 week ago (3 children)

GOOD point. They shouldn't ban cigarettes until everything else bad is also banned.

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[–] HerrBeter@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

Ban children!?

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[–] oyo@lemm.ee 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Protests bigger than anti-Trump ones in the US incoming in 3..2..1..

[–] Witchfire@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

French smokers about to burn down their government buildings in protest

[–] Zexks@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (8 children)

I love how everyone supporting this just assumes you'll still be able to smoke at your own home when it doesn't saying anything of the sort. It explicitly states 'where children COULD be present'. This is literally everywhere short of some BDSM dungeon. This is basically going to make the population choose between smoking and having kids.

[–] Kiliyukuxima@lemmy.world 27 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Which actually sounds fair. Kids do not choose to be born and do not need to inhale smoke because parents are addicted to smoking

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[–] Horsey@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

I was in Paris just after the Olympics ended and I don’t think I smelled any tobacco at all. Marseille? Cigarettes everywhere. I couldn’t even enjoy eating at the cafés.

[–] Railison@aussie.zone 4 points 1 week ago

The prolific smoking in France really hits home for me when I was subjected to a cloud of smoke on a train platform. I can’t remember the last time my personal space was so violated waiting for a train.

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