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[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 16 points 8 hours ago

"It'Ll GeT BEttEr OVEr timE!"

*Proceeds to get worse over time.

[–] TIN@feddit.uk 5 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I'm in a really odd position, in that I've always been a futurist and massive tech fan. I thought that I would be signing up for any AI tooling as soon as it appeared, chip in my head, bionic eye, the whole nine singularity yards.

What I've found instead is a disgust with the concept, the way it's been implemented, the big tech arseholes at the top of the money grabbing companies that have driven it all to it's current omnipresent position.

I want my AI, under my control and with my best interests at heart doing helpful things for me at my behest and control. It's what I was promised in all those sci fi books, not this commercial pap.

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 3 points 6 hours ago

I think "AI" is really insulting to people who want new interesting, innovative tech.

It's the same ML algorithms we have had for decades repackaged under an LLM and sold as "Intelligence"

It's marketing teams hyping up tech that has existed since the 90s in absence of real innovation.

[–] LouNeko@lemmy.world 14 points 9 hours ago

Generative AI is the equivalent of 2 stoners asking themselves "OK, what now?" a million times a second.

[–] zebidiah@lemmy.ca 1 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Not that bright... I've just read a lot of books, so I can talk to most people about most things, but I have zero functional knowledge on the subjects in question....

Am I an llm?

[–] yucandu@lemmy.world 18 points 10 hours ago

Ah but they badly mimic it very quickly!

I can be writing buggy code in a fraction of the time it took me to steal those code snippets myself.

[–] I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world 7 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

"intelligent", no they certainly aren't that.

"Wave of the future", unfortunately yes. They are. AI is entering nearly every field, and to ignore that because you desperately want to believe that's not the case is just burning your head in the sand. It absolutely is the wave of the future, it's just not a very good future.

[–] Grimy@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

I'm guessing its a typo but burning your head in the sand sounds better then the traditional version

[–] baltakatei@sopuli.xyz 1 points 9 hours ago

So, a data-hoarding pirate who is also a prolific fanfic writer?

[–] glimse@lemmy.world 2 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

Not a big AI guy but the last line is dumb as hell. LLMs can be insanely useful when used by the right people.

Should have guessed it'd be a bad take by the "friendly reminder" opener but they clearly don't see LLMs as a tool, they see it as the end product which is just ignorant.

[–] pemptago@lemmy.ml 4 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Criticisms of unethically built models can't help but mention we're making these tradeoffs for generally crappy returns. A common counter argument I see now is this focus on a small dig while ignoring all other points. I also see this effort to distance while defending. You might not big a "big" ai guy, but showing up to say it can be useful while overlooking valid points tells me you're a regular ai guy.

[–] glimse@lemmy.world -1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

OP explained what the acronym meant so was I wrong to assume they meant the entire technology and not just chatgpt and grok? Ethically and unethically built models are both LLMs and to shit on it a whole because of the bad ones is hilariously ignorant

[–] pemptago@lemmy.ml -1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

was I wrong to assume they meant the entire technology and not just chatgpt and grok?

yes.

That's all the time I have for sealion questions.

[–] glimse@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

Have fun with your hate boner

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 0 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

What do you think they are useful for? Be aware I'm going to argue against any answer you give with fervor.

[–] Empyreus@lemmy.world 1 points 6 minutes ago

There's so many casual examples that LLMs excel at. Learning a second language? Having something that can break down context, provide examples, or have practice conversations with is incredibly helpful and easy with LLMs. There's an endless amount of little things it makes easier and is great at: planning a trip and want a quick itinerary suggestion? Need help running a Dungeons and Dragons campaign? Want something to help you summarize a topic or plan you a basic learning on a topic? There's so many valid helpful uses where is faster or better than current options.

[–] glimse@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I want to be clear I'm not talking about the layman here (though I hear chatgpt is pretty good at creating quizzes based on notes you give it) - actual scientific work is being done with the help of LLMs

A concrete example of this would be www.OpenCatalystProject.com or IBM using it to discover a new COVID drug.

I'd bring up all the machine learning breakthroughs - of which there are likely hundreds - but I'd imagine you'd skewer me as they're not LANGUAGE models (which is fair as I said LLM, not ML).

What you won't hear me defending AI marketed to the masses. Pretty much any value it provides is offset by the things mentioned in the OP. But for science? Hell yeah keep up the good work

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 6 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (2 children)

You're right those arent fucking LLMs, stick with the program. Everybody else in here is talking about one specific thing and its not research oriented machine learning algorithms. It's bullshit generators.

[–] KeenFlame@feddit.nu 2 points 5 hours ago

This is the exact same technology, as if using semantic reasoning will make your argument any stronger

[–] glimse@lemmy.world 0 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

You were supposed to argue with fervor, not make stuff up..

You're wrong, they both use LLMs.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 0 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Any research using LLM, not on it, is publishing bullshit.

[–] glimse@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Why double down on being wrong? My two examples aren't publishing bullshit.

If OP was only talking about chatgpt and the like, maybe they should have said that instead of lumping all LLMs together??

Either way I think we're done here, a shame you never actually argued with fervor

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 0 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

Fine then:

  1. IBM - Not an LLM

  2. Meta Open Catalyst - Not an LLM

In fact the Open Catalyst in the paper specifically compares it's model to LLMs in that both different models improved with larger datasets (and increased processing power).

Eat shit

[–] glimse@lemmy.world 0 points 7 hours ago
  1. IBM DeepSearch. But you're half right, the drug I was thinking of was BenevolentAI...using an LLM similar to IBM.

  2. CatBERTa

But nice try. Eat shit, I guess

[–] Quacksalber@sh.itjust.works -4 points 11 hours ago

I watched a video lately suggesting that LLMs are more sophisticated than just simple text auto fill bots.