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[–] logicbomb@lemmy.world 25 points 2 days ago (7 children)

Even if they're not a right-winger and don't claim to be a centrist, "both-sides"ing things is a waste of time, at best.

Like, when Jon Stewart came back to the Daily Show. I think it was his first show back, but it might have been his second... And his main talking point was about how both Biden and Trump were old. I know he's just a comedian on a comedy show, but it still felt like a betrayal. At the very best, it was a waste of a chance to say something that could have actually made a difference.

[–] Stovetop@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago

I mean, they are both old, I don't think that's a perspective that should be discounted. That's not a discussion on policy or who one should vote for as much as it is the understandable concern about whether either of them would still be alive for their entire second term.

[–] madcaesar@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

I like Jon, but TDS has done more harm than good for the left.

  1. It just normalized the Republican CRIMINAL behaviour by making fun of it and laughing, like it was no big deal

  2. It made an entire generation complacent becuase people though watching TDS and jucking along was actually doing fuck all to actually fight Republicans or help Democrats.

  3. And finally, like you said they'd frequently have both sides segments that the right loved to echo on their propaganda networks

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[–] peregrin5@lemm.ee 22 points 1 day ago (12 children)

There's also:

"Leftist" insisting on "both sides".

-mask pull-

Russian bot

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[–] Samskara@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Nuance is inconvenient to radicals and fundamentalists.

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[–] farcaster@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago (7 children)

On the other hand, the kneejerk of labeling every even remotely centrist viewpoint as inherently dishonest is pretty annoying. My own views lean SocDem and I've found voicing any opinion which is neither solidly left-wing or solidly right-wing, especially if it does not align with very American-centric views of the political spectrum, often elicits unpleasant reactions. Nuance is hard, I guess.

[–] Eldritch@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago

As an anarchist. The seething hate I've received for pointing out. That the genocide in Palestine is truly an appropriate both sides thing. That it wasn't just Biden or just Harris. That it was our senators, our Congress people, and the executive branch.

That it was going to be a Republican or a Democrat that won the presidential election. And we all would definitely prefer it wasn't for the Republican. Or that if Fox News covers you without wildly editorializing or smearing you. You done fucked up. You could be forgiven for thinking I had just strangled their grandmother's from the reaction.

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[–] RaptorBenn@lemmy.world -5 points 21 hours ago (4 children)

What if I'm a centrist insisting both sides are garbage?

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[–] Awesomo85@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Yes, well.....when you've been indoctrinated by the internet the majority of your adult life, you (totally unironically /s) view anyone that doesn't align exactly with your world view as a Totalitarian.

I would say it's a problem, but at least it keeps you all in a centralized bubble that allows you to believe "we are the majority!!", without actually impacting the real world.

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