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    [โ€“] wolo@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (5 children)

    afaik KDE still doesn't have any tolerable way to tile windows on wayland

    if i need to open a menu to set up zones you are doing it wrong. if i have to pick from premade layouts you are doing it wrong. pop shell on gnome would be perfect if it wasn't married to gnome and slowly rotting over time: i can pick up a window, drag it to where i want to put it in the binary tiling tree, and it goes there.

    [โ€“] JustEnoughDucks@feddit.nl 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    Rip bismuth. It worked almost perfectly in plasma5 and with rewrites in plasma6 it broke and the dev didn't want to rewrite it.

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    [โ€“] endeavor@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 day ago

    I had to install software that allowed installing extentions and then try out all the extentions until I got a tiling window manager that was not crap on gnome. And then I had to make my own presets.

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    [โ€“] toastmeister@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

    I like a BeOS style vertical taskbar with window names. Neither of them do it well.

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    [โ€“] twinnie@feddit.uk 6 points 2 days ago (5 children)

    Plasmaโ€™s growing on my and I think it definitely works better on a laptop but I just wish it looked like a modern operating system. It feels like something from the 00s at best.

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    [โ€“] superkret@feddit.org 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (18 children)

    Gnome devs have a clear vision of what Gnome is supposed to be:
    simplistic, designed for touchpad and keyboard, not mousy-clicky, and staying out of your way.

    People install it, miss stuff they are used to from traditional desktops like Windows or Plasma, and bolt that back on using extensions from third parties.
    They install those extensions from a different source than Gnome itself (Gnome from their distro repos, extensions from the website).

    And then they complain when those third party add-ons from a different source aren't perfectly integrated or in sync after an update.

    And blame the Gnome devs.

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    [โ€“] renzev@lemmy.world -3 points 1 day ago (14 children)

    Honestly I can't imagine why anyone would use either of these when there are lightweight DEs like XFCE and Cinnamon that are not only easier on the system resources, but also more stable, customizeable, user-friendly and more pleasant to look at. I stopped taking gnome seriously ever since they came up with GTK3. They had a chance to fix it with GTK4 but instead they somehow made it even worse (as if client-side decorations wasn't bad enough, now theyre doing clientside shadows? Seriously!?!?). KDE is allegedly better because it gives the user more options, but anyone who's actually used it will tell you that it suffers from the same kind of bloat and braindead design decisions as gnome.

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    [โ€“] RandomVideos@programming.dev -1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (6 children)

    I dont understand why so many people are saying KDE is so much better than GNOME.
    GNOME is by far my favorite DE
    When leaving windows, i didnt want my computer to be almost the same, with a couple extra settings and different icons. GNOME does something different, and something i like

    [โ€“] twinnie@feddit.uk 5 points 1 day ago

    I like GNOME but I think thereโ€™s essential functionality missing from it. Fortunately the extensions fill the gap.

    [โ€“] Colloidal@programming.dev 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    WindowMaker had that going for me. Sadly it was abandoned long ago.

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