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Originally this was a reply to this article about a Windows feature called Recall, but there's a good argument the author's concerns resonate far beyond Windows and Meta to proprietary generally.

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[–] Mrkawfee@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (20 children)

Shit I was just about to install PopOs! Which is developed by a US company. It's maddening trying to find the right distro that fits all the requirements.

Edit: Opting for Mint.

[–] communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (11 children)

A lot of people are going to recommend you mint, I honestly think mint is an outdated suggestion for beginners, I think immutability is extremely important for someone who is just starting out, as well as starting on KDE since it’s by far the most developed DE that isn’t gnome and their… design decisions are unfortunate for people coming from windows.

I don’t think we should be recommending mint to beginners anymore, if mint makes an immutable, up to date KDE distro, that’ll change, but until then, I think bazzite is objectively a better starting place for beginners.

The mere fact that bazzite and other immutables generate a new system for you on update and let you switch between and rollback automatically is enough for me to say it’s better, but it also has more up to date software, and tons of guides (fedora is one of the most popular distros, and bazzite is essentially identical except with some QoL upgrades).

How common is the story of “I was new to linux and completely broke it”? that’s not a good user experience for someone who’s just starting, it’s intimidating, scary, and I just don’t think it’s the best in the modern era. There’s something to be said about learning from these mistakes, but bazzite essentially makes these mistakes impossible.

Furthermore because of the way bazzite works, package management is completely graphical and requires essentially no intervention on the users part, flathub and immutability pair excellently for this reason.

Cinnamon (the default mint environment) doesn’t and won’t support HDR, the security/performance improvements from wayland, mixed refresh rate displays, mixed DPI displays, fractional scaling, and many other things for a very very long time if at all. I don’t understand the usecase for cinnamon tbh, xfce is great if you need performance but don’t want to make major sacrifices, lxqt is great if you need A LOT of performance, cinnamon isn’t particularly performant and just a strictly worse version of kde in my eyes from the perspective of a beginner, anyway.

I have 15 years of linux experience and am willing to infinitely troubleshoot if you add me on matrix.

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[–] rtxn@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Stop worrying about the country of origin. It's a FOSS project. The vast majority of Pop's components are developed independently of the company, and by citizens of various nations. Applying the "USA bad, so product bad" rhetoric is a seriously shortsighted approach. Consider instead the amount of influence exerted by the company. Does Ubuntu still seem like the better choice just because the company is headquartered in the UK?

Besides, if you really want to cut American software out of your life, start with Linux and GNU. Torvalds was born in Finland, but he is a naturalized US citizen, and Linux is developed on American infrastructure and includes significant amount of work from American developers.

[–] ShrimpCurler@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 1 week ago (4 children)

It's not “USA bad, so product bad”, it's the concern that the US government can do a lot more to US based projects and you probably wont know untill it's too late.

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[–] RandomVideos@programming.dev 13 points 1 week ago (2 children)

What does linux need to try?

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[–] albert180@piefed.social 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I've wanted to switch to OpenSUSE for quite some time now from Fedora for the same reason. Should really do it now

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[–] Tapionpoika@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Funny how much longer my phone's battery lasts now after I flashed /e/ to it. No constant net traffic anymore.

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[–] tiny_hedgehog@lemm.ee 11 points 1 week ago (4 children)

I use Ubuntu. Can someone tell me if that’s “independent and outside US jurisdiction”? I know it’s made/maintained by canonical.

What are some Linux distros that we should avoid? What are some that are independent?

[–] eleitl@lemm.ee 13 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Debian is a community distro. Ubuntu is downstream of it.

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[–] dogs0n@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 week ago

I believe in the underlying message (use linux), but doesn't practically every big company change their privacy policy or tos every 10 minutes.

[–] datendefekt@feddit.org 10 points 1 week ago

Was considering migrating from Fedora and getting a MacBook, but this is making me reconsider.

[–] ijhoo@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Does that mean that fedora is not recommended?

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[–] Wanderer@lemm.ee 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

I want to get into Linux and I need a new laptop. I'm happy to go secondhand but I actually want a half decent thing that can play some games, not the cheapest box I can put Linux on and use fake word.

Am I best off just buying a new windows laptop than I can dual boot? Or any other suggestions?

Windows is US$ 139.00. So I figured if I buy a laptop without windows it will be 139 less but I guess manufacturers get windows for like $20 so there are no saving anyway.

Edit:should probably add I'm from to UK I that's relevant

[–] skeesx@lemm.ee 9 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Yes, at least Lenovo Linux laptops are 140$ cheaper.

Take a look at Framework, or System76 for Linux first hardware.

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