well looks like estonians will be proud of bolt now
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Not very beginner friendly to recommend Arch instead of Mint or Zorin.
He said "things I personally use"
Love mint
I really like using Kagi for search!
Startpage got bought by System1 in 2019. System1 is an American advertising company. I personally use Qwant for privacy reasons - They're also in the process of building their own search index together with Ecosia.
I found qwant pretty terrible
Really At least cutrently i found qwant provides the best search results
Same
Why?
Qwant is a disaster. Just go read their Wikipedia page. Gouging public money for essential being an ecosia without sending money to plant trees..
How is Telegram US based? It is a Pavel Durov's offshore company from some Virgin islands. Not European, but not US either.
In this case, I think the creator just avoids Telegram, for good reason:
Itโs not E2EE encrypted by default.
The list is not named appropriately โUS etcโ but itโs not a bad list either
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OP writes "instead of their american counterparts", and then puts signal.
Firefox as well any opensource doesn't have a country. You can build it and use it. Avoid any centralized service.
The 4 freedoms of software are:
Freedom 0: The Freedom to Run
You can use the software for any purpose, without restrictions.
Freedom 1: The Freedom to Study and Modify
You have access to the source code, allowing you to study how the software works and make changes to suit your needs.
Freedom 2: The Freedom to Distribute Copies
You can share copies of the software with others, whether for free or at a cost.
Freedom 3: The Freedom to Improve and Share Improvements
You can modify the software and share your changes with the community, helping others benefit from your improvements.
as long as these freedoms are observed it doesn't matter the country of origin.
I would rather see people use Firefox than Vivaldi. We need a more diverse browser engine market to keep the web open. More here: https://better-tech.eu/web/article/switch-browsers/
We need a more diverse browser engine market to keep the web open.
We definitely do, but it's a tall order considering making a fully functional and daily usable browser engine is one of the most difficult programming projects to under take
At least we got Ladybird with its brand new from scratch engine coming up though! (In 2028....)
It's absolutely not a simple thing, but if we let the web turn into Chrome-only then Ladybird doesn't stand a chance. For now, more market share for Firefox and Firefox-based browsers is the only argument against making websites only work in Chrome.
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Some of these products would not exist without their American counterpart, which directly fuel their existance.
Librewolf is just a hardened version of Firefox. It would not exist without the Firefox team continuing to develop Firefox and to fix its security issues.
Ecosia primarely uses Bing and Startpage uses Google for search results. Both would not exist without the search engines backing them.
I'm not saying these are bad products and I don't mean to criticiseze. I'm actually a librewolf user myself. I just think it is important to point out that the European label might be deceiving in this instance and might mislead people into thinking they are using something different than they actually are.
It might also not be so important. Perhaps focusing our energy on good open source projects and NGO-backed initiatives is desirable regardless of their origin?
idk food for thought
Ecosia is actively developing their own search index together with Qwant. They are rolling out French and German results this year actually. AFAIK only like Mojeek and like Swisscow have their own search index (as well as Brave which is US based). But their current search results aren't really that great which is why I will stick to Qwant.
I also don't fully trust Brave because of their whole crypto involvement but their search engine is pretty good from experience and definitely much better in terms of privacy than google.
I've been using Ecosia for over a year now, it serves my purposes well!
I thought Bol only serviced Belgium and Netherlands?
they do
So not a truely European replacement for Amazon.
Bol was great while I lived in NL, but now I've left, I'm struggling to find a good replacement
yeah thats why i included bol. i couldnt find anything like it thats "truly european"
Not sure it's a good idea to recommend Arch Linux to newbies migrating from Windows; maybe prioritize Mint or similar?
this is not a recommendation post. this is what i personally use as i said in the title. i would always recommend Mint to a Linux beginner
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Signal is based in California, but they're a nonprofit.
Session is good alternative
I thought it was odd to see it in an European alternative list.
I don't personally have issues with nonprofits or FOSS as exceptions to my own personal boycott of US companies, but if anyone is looking for an alternative to Signal, SimpleX is probably the closest analog.
It's decentralized and funded globally. It's based in the UK.
American telegram? ๐
I mean its not American but certainly not private
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Awesome stuff. Also don't forget European DNS companies like Quad9.
And Mullvad
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