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Can't run Windows 11? Don't want to? There are surprisingly legal options

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[–] thatradomguy@lemmy.world 1 points 36 minutes ago

Too late (for me), but seeing how things are going, Windows 11 will probably be my last Windows that ever deal with. Will be moving to Linux.

[–] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 28 points 8 hours ago (9 children)

Honestly I'm getting a bit tired of discussions about Windows getting hijacked by people almost aggressively pushing Linux as the go-to alternative. I'm sure Linux is good, but it often feels less like helpful advice and more like proselytizing. I think most users aren’t looking for a whole paradigm shift, they want improvements within the environment they already know, not a completely different system with its own learning curve and compromises.

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 1 points 21 minutes ago

It's been this way for decades. They don't realise that by constantly bashing windows, they're not making Linux better, theyre just demonstrating what sort of bitter snobbery you'll be dealing with if you switch.

I use Arch btw.

[–] bfg9k@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago

I just want my games to work man. I have a huge library of weird and old games that I have spent years tinkering with to get them to run reliably on modern windows, I honestly cannot be arsed having to re-fix everything on Linux. WINE is not perfect and Proton doesn't support everything.

[–] bss03@infosec.pub 10 points 8 hours ago

I'm been using Linux full time since 2004, and while I think it is good to let people know it is there, I don't recommend it to people I'm not willing to personally support. But, I also let them know I just can't help with Windows problems either, and they should address their complaints to their OS vendor.

I file Debian bugs if I have a problem with my OS, and have received fixes that way. This is better support that I ever received from MS during my first 2 decades of using MS OSes.

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 4 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I really feel like the linux thing is far more cultural than practical, and if you don't actually enjoy fiddling around with settings and software, you're probably not going to enjoy the community either.

I have no idea what I'm going to do, I can't afford a new PC nor do I have the desire to buy a new PC just because Microsoft says jump through this new hoop. I'll probably just do a bypass and ask around the docks for a security key "workaround" from the friendly, local, sailors with eyepatches and peg legs.

[–] ZC3rr0r@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 37 minutes ago) (1 children)

If your machine has a TPM chip, you can bypass the other requirements to upgrade to 11 with a simple registry edit. Not sure if that's an option for you, but it saved parents' older Surface device from the landfill.

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

TPM cup

I googled this and now I'm enrolled in a yacht race... thanks.

[–] ZC3rr0r@lemmy.ca 2 points 37 minutes ago

Yeah yeah, I blame autocorrect.

[–] agent_nycto@lemmy.world 6 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

"Linux is great ha ha you just have to know which one you want and they are all vague and technical ha ha if there's a problem just program a solution yourself you know programming ha ha we're not a cult I swear anyway I told my grandma she's a piece of shit because she didn't want to switch to Linux even though she doesn't own a computer I only yelled at her for five hours straight about it"

Though for real I might actually try it out, I like open source stuff and my friend said it's not hard.

Yeah, if you're interested, you should give it a shot.

[–] TheRealKuni@midwest.social 4 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

“I see you’re worried about abuse by priests in the Catholic Church. Can I interest you in Buddhism?”

[–] bss03@infosec.pub 6 points 8 hours ago (3 children)

I'm not sure I get the analogy here... Do you think there will be less abuse by priests if there are more Catholics?

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[–] kinther@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

It may be my perspective comes from western civilization, but do Buddhists have similar child abuse scandals?

[–] TheRealKuni@midwest.social 3 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

It may be my perspective comes from western civilization, but do Buddhists have similar child abuse scandals?

I have no idea, that wasn’t my point with the metaphor.

I was riffing off the “proselytizing” comment and comparing someone complaining about some shady shit Microsoft does and then being advised to change to Linux, with someone complaining about some shady shit the Catholic Church does and then being advised to change to Buddhism.

It’s not a perfect metaphor, but it gave me a chuckle when I thought of it.

I picked those religions because Catholicism in its singular “what the Vatican says goes for everyone” approach mapped well onto Microsoft and Windows, and I thought Buddhism, a religion with many flavors, some of which are more structured than others, mapped well onto Linux and its various distros.

[–] Newsteinleo@infosec.pub 2 points 7 hours ago (3 children)

Have you asked the question "why do so many discussions get hijacked by people saying to switch to Linux"? It's not because there are a bunch of Linux nut jobs that need to validate their questionable choice by getting other people to make the same choice. It's because Linux works and it works well. Out of the box, with no command line configuration, Linux will serve most end users computer needs. For those of us that use Linux, this Windows 10 thing is a joke, because its a problem that has a simple solution. There is no need to go through installing a whole different Windows 10 OS when you can switch to Linux and be done.

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[–] mrcleanup@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago

People always talk about the learning curve and compromises, but Linux is finally in the "shit just works" stage, so it's not much different than the Mac/PC decision people make every day.

Heck, in a lot of ways it is more similar to Windows than Mac is, so it should be an easier decision. For some reason though, everyone still treats it like... Well... It would be like treating Windows like you still have to know DOS.

That's just not true anymore.

[–] HeChomk@lemmy.world -5 points 5 hours ago

Linux isn't good. Not for home users that want it to just work, imo. Linux will fight you at every step of the way, over every little thing. I've tried various versions over the years and I've always been put off by how anti-user it is. Want to set a custom dpi? Fuck you. Want to set a custom cursor size or colour? Fine, but fuck you it won't work in a browser window. Want an on screen keyboard? Fuck you. Want to update or install anything that isn't in a package store? Fuck you, terminal.

[–] Jaysyn@lemmy.world 11 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

I switched to Mint last year. Had a few hiccups, but I have everything working just how I want it now.

Windows problem solved.

[–] Rooty@lemmy.world 37 points 17 hours ago

I see that we've entered the bargaining period.

[–] redwattlebird@lemmings.world 27 points 17 hours ago (3 children)

Jokes on them! I got rid of windows last week and now have Linux Mint on my PC! It's great! All my games run and I've set up my own screenshot shortcut in a way that I want. Installing software through terminal commands is also a lot of fun.

Haha. I too switched to Linux Mint last week. So far no regrets. I've actually enjoyed making everything I need to work. Especially because it seems to work better that on the operating system it was designed for. Strange.

[–] Nikelui@lemmy.world 2 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

How does Mint work with (old) NVIDIA drivers? I'm going to have to do the switch sometime this year and I am still debating which distro would give me the least troubles running games and applications via Proton / Wine.

[–] mothersprotege@lemm.ee 1 points 23 minutes ago

It's been working fine with my GTX 1060. I'll probably get around to trying different distros at some point, but I'm pretty happy with mint. Most of the issues I've had with it have been due to its emphasis on stability; that is, it's slower to incorporate changes than more cutting-edge distros. At least, that's been my impression—I'm no Linuxologist.

[–] Ecen@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

My guess is that they will work just fine! Most distros will work equally well once set up, but some may require an extra step or two for driver installation. From what I've seen, Mint is a good starting point overall and is what I'm recommending to friends right now who are using Linux for the first time :)

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