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[–] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 39 points 1 day ago (2 children)

It's taken me a while to realise that you don't ever "finish" cleaning up. I'm probably going to die while there are unwashed dishes that I need to do. There will be dirty laundry that needs doing. I will also have things that I've Been Meaning to Get Around To.

Not in a dreary way, but just that this is what it's like going through life. It helps put things in perspective when I realise I'm not actually capable of finishing all my todos. It's just a process that you go through while alive.

[–] LittleBorat3@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I go commando because I just have no underwear while wearing two different socks. They will find me keeled over like this eating in a restaurant. Kitchen dirty of course.

I also don't care.

[–] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 day ago

It's you! The Unfinished One!

[–] Crikeste@lemm.ee 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

This was very frustrating for me when I went through it. I was in a growing phase, trying to get my life on tracks, and I HATED that I could never have all my clothes I love to wear washed while still being able to wear them. Obvious, I know. But it really wasn’t something I had encountered before, because I never really cared about keeping things tidy.

It’s funny that once you decide you want things tidy, you realize they never truly will be.

You can clean up all the cans, but you will crack another.

You can do all the laundry, you gotta wear it

You can clean the plates, still gotta eat off of them

[–] trolololol@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Just chill, there's an insurmountable amount of work to have a perfect house. Is that what truly gives you happiness, or is it the untidiness that gives you unease?

And either case, is that truly coming from you or the family/peer pressure?

[–] Crikeste@lemm.ee 1 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

It’s neither, honestly. Great question, really.

I’ll be honest: I’m an alcoholic finally doing the work to never touch that shit again. So in that, I’ve been doing a lot of “finding myself”. I’ve been trying to be a bit more conscious of things and to also do a lot less sitting around playing video games and watching YouTube and Twitch. And I’ve found that being in a nice space is really comforting, so I started working on my tidiness. And that’s where I found those things I mentioned.

I wouldn’t say it’s coming from my family, it might not even be coming from me. It feels like a “societal” thing. I hate to use this example, but like Jordan Petersen saying “make your bed”.

I don’t know, I’ve also found myself feeling “worthless” in the dating and sex scene, so it’s also probably coming from there. I think “what girl would want to hangout in a shitty room?”

I got a lot to process lmfao

[–] trolololol@lemmy.world 1 points 16 hours ago

That is wholesome to hear. And I get you, society has some norms that are actually healthy when you mention it like that: shower frequently and don't let the house turn into a stinking cave 😃

Good on ya, and remember to be grateful to yourself for the results and actually take a minute to enjoy the outcomes.

[–] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 day ago

Great comment, but IMO telling someone to "just chill" almost never has the desired effect.

That is the goal though, so I'm not saying you're wrong.

[–] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I feel this comment intensely. I have no idea where this dissatisfaction comes from, but it was just an invisible part of the lived environment for most of my life, and only now am I realising that we're chasing something, an end state, that is fundamentally unachievable.

Maybe it's the video games. I'm waiting for an achievement to pop up so I know I'm finished lol. :P

[–] trolololol@lemmy.world 2 points 15 hours ago

Yep

I'm in a less is more phase. Consciously not pursuing certain things if it means I can get it with extra effort, and putting that effort into appreciating what I already achieved.

[–] fritobugger2017@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Have kids, the floor has to be cleaned every day throughout the house.

[–] UnderFreyja@lemmy.ca 2 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I have kids, what is this clean floor you speak of?

[–] fritobugger2017@lemmy.world 3 points 10 hours ago

exactly. Had the oldest one clean the floors before bed last night and that lasted until they all woke up in the morning.

[–] bfg9k@lemmy.world 1 points 15 hours ago

no thank you

[–] zloubida@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

Have kids and an incontinent cat, and despair.

[–] orca@orcas.enjoying.yachts 73 points 2 days ago (11 children)

It’s made even worse when you don’t have a dishwasher.

[–] bfg9k@lemmy.world 2 points 15 hours ago

Bro we had a dishwasher and our Dad still made us do the dishes manually every night. Now I have a dishwasher of my own and avoid doing them manually as much as possible.

Fucc u Dad

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 52 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (4 children)

Dude, for real. Folks: do not take your dishwasher for granted!

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[–] HuntressHimbo@lemm.ee 16 points 2 days ago (13 children)

This so much. Don't have a dishwasher currently and I spend upwards of 20 minutes a day in front of the sink. Makes my shoulders hurt hunching over like that all the time

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[–] LiamMayfair@lemmy.sdf.org 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Getting a dishwasher was one of the things that has improved my quality of life the most. Even a crappy, cheapo dishwasher like mine will make a big difference.

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[–] naeap@sopuli.xyz 10 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Yeah, in my student single flat, I didn't had a dishwasher for quite some time.

Couldn't keep up in any way, although this shit kitchen wasn't even up to really cook something big, but hand washing every little thing, really put me off cooking for quite some time.

I think, I re-used the same set of plate and knife for years, just because I didn't want to use up more dishes, that I need to wash...

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[–] big_slap@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I got a countertop dishwasher last year, best 300 ive ever spent. looking forward to having a real dishwasher when I eventually move!

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[–] Lasherz12@lemmy.world 60 points 2 days ago

Truly, this is the most relatable sisyphean trial of modernity.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The kitchen exists as a place where you can make a mess and quickly clean it up.

Imagine trying to do all the stuff you do in your kitchen, but in your living room or bedroom?

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[–] oyzmo@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago

...and folding clothes! That's how you know you're alive 😅

[–] amlor@lemmy.world 39 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I read this while cleaning the kitchen.

I read this while procrastinating about cleaning the kitchen

[–] CheeseToastie@lazysoci.al 19 points 2 days ago
[–] Bieren@lemmy.world 26 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Clean the toilet. Leave for 3 weeks, toilet hasn’t been used. Come back and the bowl is dirty.

[–] lazynooblet@lazysoci.al 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The call is coming from in the house.

[–] smee@poeng.link 1 points 15 hours ago

From the porcelain phone!

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[–] gnomesaiyan@lemmy.world 33 points 2 days ago (14 children)

The biggest culprit to a dirty kitchen is someone that has never heard the phrase "if you got time to lean, you got time to clean". My wife hates this philosophy, but when I'm done cooking and ready to plate, the kitchen is spotless. It must be witchcraft!

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 83 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The phrase is used to shame people for taking amy breaks at work, which is why people tend to hate it.

Cleaning as you go (if time is available) does result in a lot less work at the end and more about efficiency than laziness. For meals that create a lot of dishes, having someone else clean as you go is even better than puttibg it all on to cook!

[–] xpinchx@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I wish my kitchen was just a little bit bigger lol. My fiance gets mad when I'm all up in her space, kitchen is off limits when she's cooking.

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

We have had only tiny kitchens and it did take a decade to get the dance down to both be productive in the same space when making some meals. Opening the oven involves an announcement and a confirmation!

There are a few where she needs all the space and I just clean up after. Most of mine have breaks in between steps where I can clean things as I go.

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[–] qjkxbmwvz@startrek.website 15 points 2 days ago

It's one of the reasons I hate having one person cook and the other clean


the incentives are misaligned, and it just breeds bad habits and reckless cooking IMHO. If you do both cooking and cleaning, you'll hopefully learn to clean as you go.

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[–] vga@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

A skillful S-tier parent will make their children do all these tasks eventually. I haven't managed this yet, but I've seen parents who have.

It's an amazing sight to behold. I manage to do it perhaps once a month.

[–] tamal3@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (14 children)

I want true cleaning hacks. I just got a dishwasher last week for the first time in my life and it's a huge time saver. What else is like that? The most common sense of course is putting things away after you use them, and another hack is cleaning the kitchen before bed, but what else? Does wiping down the shower every time I use it help? Should I get a used roomba? Are there any roomba-type-objects that mop? Give me the knowledge please.

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

When I cook I follow the restaurant kitchen principle of cleaning as you go, meaning constantly clear your workspace and clean your essential tools so they're immediately ready. When you get an inspiration to cook, nothing deflates it like finding you have 20 minutes of work to do first, or that the special utensil or machine you only have one of needs soaking to get the crusty dried crud off it.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 day ago

Get one of those car window cleaners, The kind they use at the gas station with the wiper blade on one side and the scrubby sponge on the back. Use it in your shower every time after you shower. Scrubby side first wiper side second. It literally takes 30 seconds to scrub down everything and while it's never completely clean it never gets groady.

Treat your grout with bleach. Spray the wall wipe the bleach off the tile itself The grout will absorb it a little bit and it'll keep mold from forming.

If you have a glass shower door you can treat it with rainx the same way you would do your windshield. It's not get any appreciable muck on it for weeks. It is unfortunately a fair amount of work to apply the Windex properly.

Get stainless steel cleaner to clean stainless steel. It really makes a difference.

The oxalic acid in Bar Keeper's Friend will remove tarnish from copper with zero effort. It can also remove burned on food to an extent.

If your range hood is covered in grease and dust, pour olive oil all over a paper towel and use that to wipe off you hood first. Then use a soapy rag to clean off the oil.

Slightly damp magic erasers will remove almost anything from painted drywall. You can do the same spot about four or five times usually before it needs to be repainted.

Don't use a steam mop on luxury vinyl plank. Only use a spray mop and neutral pH cleaners specifically designed for flooring. Definitely not fabuloso.

Remove the baskets from your dishwasher once in a while and scrub the insides down with the magic eraser.

Clean your dishwasher filter every time you run it, or be prepared to replace the pump every other year.

Take your shower heads off and soak them in CLR if they start spraying water in strange directions.

[–] immutable@lemm.ee 4 points 1 day ago

The absolute best life hack I have is the 5 minute rule.

If I see something that needs doing I ask one question, “can I do this in less than 5 minutes?” If the answer is yes, I do it.

Over time I’ve realized how many things I used to put off and let pile up because I didn’t have the time and how many of those things take less than 5 minutes, less than 2 minutes.

It’s amazing how many things you can do in basically no time. I used to put off so much, I won’t empty the dishwasher because it “takes too long” takes about 2 minutes. I won’t load the dishwasher because it “takes too long” takes about 2 minutes. The counter is messy but it would take forever to clean it, nope, 3 minutes.

I think it’s a good hack though because it works in 3 different dimensions

  • First, and most obvious, you do whatever thing you’ve identified will take less than 5 minutes.
  • Second, and less obvious, once you start doing this you find the number of times you need to stop and clean all afternoon going down greatly. It just changes the relationship you have with cleaning (or at least I had with cleaning). Cleaning time used to be this block I would set aside and dread, but now even when I need to stop and do the things that take more than 5 minutes there aren’t 100 5 minus tasks also piled up in the way.
  • Third, and maybe least obvious, it helps you really gauge how much work stuff is. I don’t know why I thought unloading the dishwasher was some big ordeal, it takes 2 minutes tops. The longer I use the 5 minute rule the more things I’ve thought to try to see if I can do in 5 minutes. And it’s not like I’m speed running these chores. A lot of the things I put off and let pile up just aren’t that much work if you do them when they need doing.

So that’s my cleaning life hack. It has completely changed the way I think about cleaning. It’s not something I stop and do and dread Saturday because I’ve got to do a big clean of the kitchen. My kitchen is always pretty clean now and on Sunday I spend 30-60 minutes mopping and spraying everything down for a nice squeaky clean.

Living in a nice clean place also rules.

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[–] Almacca@aussie.zone 16 points 2 days ago

I have just learned to be at peace with a certain amount of squalor.

[–] Coreidan@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Only if you want things clean. No one says it needs to be clean but you.

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[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

If only Doordash would also clean your kitchen!

[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

You can get them to if you're clever enough.

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[–] vvilld@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 day ago (3 children)

With kids it's so much worse. I clean the entire kitchen at least 3 times a day, usually more.

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