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[–] DosDude@retrolemmy.com 103 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

Still funny that valve still can't count past 2 even though this is the 5th installment

[–] lowleveldata@programming.dev 33 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm glad that they have found the workaround to call everything 2 tho

[–] magic_lobster_party@kbin.social 39 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’m still waiting for Half Life 2: Episode 2: Part 2

[–] gnutrino@programming.dev 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Half Life 2: Episode 2: Part 2: Subsection b): Paragraph (ii) will be the real shit

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[–] BlinkerFluid@lemmy.one 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They are very aware of the meme and will never release a third game as "3".

Team Fortress 3 will probably just be called "forever" or have some other tagline to avoid being called 3.

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[–] gnutrino@programming.dev 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

7th if you count CS online 1&2 (9th if you also include CS Neo and Nexon: Zombies/Studio but that's pushing it even for me)

[–] DosDude@retrolemmy.com 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And I thought I was pushing it by including Condition Zero

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[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 88 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I played it for an hour and realized I still suck at counter strike

[–] Lockely@pawb.social 42 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's really wild that they straight up nuked CS:GO for this and it both performs worse on higher end machines (reports of stuttering when ragdolls activate or shaders load in are rampant) AND it's missing the casual war games modes like Arms Race.

[–] Terminarchs@slrpnk.net 23 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I have a 1070 and both performance and loading times have improved compared to CS:GO. 🤷

[–] CalcProgrammer1@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Intel A770 with stable mesa drivers, can get around 100-130fps mid settings at 4K in CS2, but got 200+ solid and just ran vsync on at 144Hz 4K very high settings in CSGO. Maybe it's just the Linux build (which notably received zero public beta testing) but my friend said the Windows version was lower frames on his AMD 580 than CSGO too.

[–] Turtle@aussie.zone 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How's the A770 treating you in general?

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[–] Still@programming.dev 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

well they kinda had to nuke csgo as you can't transfer inventories between games

the game is so fucked tho, on my 1060 I could play csgo at 1440p low at about 200fps, cs2 I'm lockynto get 100 on FSR performance

and zooming with scopes are fucked get about 300ms of stutter every time

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[–] isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Released 2012? Huuuh???

Maybe they just renamed the successor to 1.6? 🤷

[–] isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I think so, I heard they nuked the CS:GO listing, so they probably reused the same listing.

[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago (2 children)

they probably reused the same listing.

From the first announcement of CS2, it has always been clear that CS2 would be an update of CSGO: https://www.theverge.com/2023/3/22/23651939/counterstrike-cs2-valve-smoke-grenades-limited-test

[–] isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 year ago

Thank you, I hadn't come across the announcement yet, first I've heard of CS2 is here and today :P

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The ol' Overwatch 2 treatment.

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[–] CalcProgrammer1@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago

It's the same listing, CS:GO just updated to CS2. Reusing the listing meant the game auto updated.

[–] CluelessDude@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 year ago

I would gladly travel back in time to 2012 tbh

[–] cybermass@lemmy.ca 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I really wish they had fixed the movement, considering it's supposed to be a tactical shooter I would love to see some sort of footstep mechanic but it's still ice rink battle simulator.

[–] PHLAK@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago (7 children)

That wouldn't be Counter-Strike though.

[–] Astroturfed@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Yessssss, counterstrike is fucking counterstrike. It hasn't changed in any drastic way in 20+ years. There's plenty of new games that have all the realistic bullshit.

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[–] SrTobi@feddit.de 11 points 1 year ago

Tried to play yesterday but too many other people had the same idea... We'll, going to tried in a few weeks

[–] Psythik@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

So do you think the game is worth getting back into now, or should I just give up all hope at ever being half decent at this game?

Last time I played was in 2014. Started as a Silver I, and worked my way up to Gold 1. I was never a competent player. I feel like if I try to get back into it now, the game will just be full of the same old players from past CS titles and I'll still stand zero chance of ever getting gud. Or do you think the sequel will bring in enough new players that I might do alright?

[–] macisr@unilem.org 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I just play it for fun now. Try harding it made me miserable. But yeah, there are a lot of new players and it is a new ranked system so you might climb higher.

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[–] Ravaja@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you're trying to be good, stop right there. You can become competent, you can grind nade lineups and do hundreds and hundreds of scrims or hours of warm ups and aim training and movement training, and there will ALWAYS be someone better than you, you will NEVER reach the top of the mountain. If you're playing to have fun and are having fun with the game, you should play, because counter strike IS fun, but after getting out of the grindset, all I see when I look at my friends play is how little fun and joy they're actually getting out of the game and it's depressing as shit, don't be like them

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[–] CluelessDude@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Yes and no, if you enjoyed your time why not? If you are thinking about features then no... The game is still very early open beta sort of feel atm it has the core gameplay but some things might feel off, and most game modes are missing, granted you haven't played in a while so you might not notice any of this, I say give it a shot, the skill difference exists in all games but I'm a believer that it is what makes you passively get better.

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[–] fluckx@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I hope it's more stable than the limited test I've been playing. Hopefully comp is not limited to premier, but you can pick the maps you want to play on.

The hitboxes feel really weird. Sometimes it feela like the bullet went straight through people repeatedly ( e.g.: with a scout ) other times I seem to hit something I'm convinced was a fatfingered miss.

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[–] mub@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago

I wondered what was going on when Steam said Counter-Striker 2 successfully updated.

[–] sturmblast@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (6 children)

it looks a lot like the last one, not very excited

[–] naught@sh.itjust.works 40 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thats kinda the point! New engine for new cool features and graphics but same core gameplay. They've improved a lot of things. I think the CS audience is excited for this, but they haven't done anything over-the-top different to attract net new players

[–] Cornpop@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago

They kind of have behind the scenes. For one they eliminated the need to bind jump throw with the console, and made it a skill check instead. A lot more visual cues as well including foot step audible distance is now shown on radar. They added a lot of little things that make the game more friendly to new players that don't need to play for years to develop a feel for certain things.

[–] JJROKCZ@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It’s just a graphical and engine update, it’s version 2 not a full new game. They’ll be able to make lots of small improvements over the next decades but the color gameplay hasn’t changed in 20 years and won’t change for 20 more because it doesn’t need to.

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[–] BlinkerFluid@lemmy.one 13 points 1 year ago

It's kinda a sport now. Valve has a model to stick to. Improving it beyond graphics is risky.

[–] Polar@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It is the last one. It's quite literally just an update to CS:GO.

They just updated the engine a bit, but it's the exact same game.

[–] Cornpop@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

It's an entirely new engine built from the ground up.

[–] lowleveldata@programming.dev 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I played a few matches. It's still the same de_dust2.

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[–] Blxter@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Was really hoping it was not going to carry the 2 since it's a pvp game/evolving game. Like division 2 and destiny 2 just drop the number.

[–] all-knight-party@kbin.run 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Division 2 and Destiny 2 are much more sequels though than they are an updated platform, tons of content differences. Counter-Strike is much, much more iterative

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