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[–] alphapuggle@programming.dev 56 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

No fucking way they stuck with mini HDMI I swear to God. The only thing I wanted from a new gen was an HDMI port designed to actually be used

And they kept the same WiFi / Bluetooth chip, known for being completely unstable and recommended to be supplemented for almost any project

[–] ButtholeSpiders@startrek.website 29 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Still no m2 slot support? SD cards remind me of the 5400rpm HDD days.

[–] Rootiest@lemm.ee 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It does support m.2 (and presumably other single-lane pcie devices via a HAT apparently.

So that's an improvement

[–] SamsonSeinfelder@feddit.de 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

While true m.2 is available as a bulky Hat, I wonder when they will start using the underside more. There is so much space where e.g. a m.2 slot would have fit perfect while still keeping the whole system slim.

[–] XTornado@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

I mean the M2 I feel for most uses it would mean extra costs just to be unused the hats makes much more sense.

[–] Rootiest@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

To be fair it doesn't have to be a hat. They have the pcie lane rigged up to an FPC connector similar to the DSI ones. So someone could easily design an m.2 drive enclosure, PCB, etc that just accepts the FPC ribbon and you can mount it wherever you'd like

[–] alphapuggle@programming.dev 2 points 1 year ago

I'm not sure it's needed, but certainly would be nice. Most applications for a pi are just fine on a high performance SD card

[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Every post I’ve seen about this had people complaining about the things it didn’t have. Will it actually satisfy anyone?

[–] scorpionix@feddit.de 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Agreed. Seems like I am going to skip this generation or if I need a new Pi, buy a 4.

[–] alphapuggle@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago

Personally I'm not sure yet. Sounds like its gotten a very much needed performance boost but those drawbacks are certainly disappointing.

[–] Diplomjodler@feddit.de 38 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Nice, but can you actually buy it?

[–] echo64@lemmy.world 32 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Just like the current rpis, you won't be able to. But businesses will.

Rpi is a for maximum profit company now, it's not about supplying boards to hobbiests, it's about supplying boards to industry

[–] serratur@lemmy.wtf 13 points 1 year ago

I bought my first rpi 4 for like 30 eur, the second one I couldnt even buy.

[–] 3arn0wl@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

No open sourced RISC-V processor? Not interested.

And courting Micro$oft...??

He's lost the plot

[–] jherazob@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] 3arn0wl@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

To quote a Linux tech writer:

"You literally cannot boot a raspberry pi zero, one, two, three or four without running ThreadX which is a Microsoft product.

"So whether the OS pings a repo or not is moot. The whole damn computer is run by a proprietary sealed Microsoft binary."

Can I just get the Pi3 and Pi4 variants readily and consistently available?

[–] windowsphoneguy@feddit.de 3 points 1 year ago

Thirsty boy

[–] pazukaza@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Is it fast and furious too?

[–] cybervseas@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I assume still no real power management :-S

[–] nodsocket@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

You can adjust the power usage now to either over clock the CPU or to supply USB devices.