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[–] ono@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That leaked email conveniently assumes the owner of Valve would sell it. I can't think of a reason for Gabe to do that.

[–] gamer@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This is the biggest problem with Valve at the moment. They're awesome, but only because of the current leadership. Once these guys retire or die, it's very likely Valve will enshittify like every other business.

Valve needs to be hit by regulators at some point. They just have too much market power.

[–] JokeDeity@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I wish the decent guys who started companies would leave a directive for the company that must be followed to prevent it from becoming just another shitty piece of garbage like everything else these days has become thanks to the geniuses with business degrees running the world.

[–] TWeaK@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

But there's no practical way you could hold the future owners of the business to that directive. If you own the business, you get to set the directives, including overwriting previous ones.

The only way to enforce it is to maintain controlling interest in the business. Or, at least spread the interest among multiple parties so no one person can dictate it.

[–] strongarm@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The best way to do this would be to make the company Employee Owned

[–] TWeaK@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

Even then though you could have employees voting to change the direction of the business. If someone offers to buy the business for billions, then it's possible everyone would vote to accept the sale and change everything.

The business is always going to change over time.

[–] rambaroo@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Valve is not awesome at all. Ffs, they didn't become a monopoly by accident. People need to stop worshipping this company just because they started packaging wine with their app.

This is the same company that literally started the trend of requiring storefronts and custom installers for their games with HL2... the exact same thing people whine about EA and Blizzard doing.

PC gaming will become a total shit show if Valve dies and they'll be fully responsible for it.

[–] FreeLikeGNU@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

just because they started packaging wine with their app

Even if that's all they did, that is more than anyone else is doing. What they really did was make nearly every game they sell easily playable without requiring you to use Windows. As byproduct, DXVK (part of Valve's Proton) provides greater compatibility and performance for Windows users as well (Intel ARC driver and DX9 game support for example). They have salaried employees working exclusively on making this work and their development is open source for anyone to use modify and share. Epic or any other store front could freely take advantage of this work and benefit why don't they do that instead of whining?

[–] DrVortex@lemmy.one 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Valve was founded in 1996 by former Microsoft employees Gabe Newell and Mike Harrington.

You have no idea how this works.

[–] LoafyLemon@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Gabe Newell quit working for Microsoft before Windows 3.0 was released. Valve is an employee-owned private company, Gabe Newell ensured that even after his passing, Valve stays true to their roots as long as there's the majority of employees sharing his ideals.

[–] TWeaK@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Employee owned businesses are something else, Valve is just a regular privately owned business, one that the owner works for and takes a salary from.

Employee owned businesses are owned by all of the employees, collectively, with a slightly more democratic decision making process. The CEO still makes the decisions, but employees have a right to have their input heard as shareholders. With Valve, Gabe has the final say on everything.

[–] mlg@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Gaben already refused to sell to EA and made it abundantly clear that we would rather let valve die than go public.

Microsoft also just recently said they'd buy Nintendo if they could.

All this means is that Microsoft is filthy rich and still doesn't know how to make an original quality game studio. They seem to overly rely on buying out studios and IPs that are successful to rake in more money.

spoilerAll of which reeks of an oligigopoly and reminds me of even worse companies like Oracle and AT&T

[–] JokeDeity@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

The thought of another company buying Valve, especially one like Microsoft, makes me actually sick. I have spent so much fucking money on my Steam library at this point. If my Steam library gets jacked by some billionaire dickheads it's all over, I'm never paying for anything again.

[–] yum13241@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

MSFT is full of misfits.

[–] MNByChoice@midwest.social 1 points 1 year ago

Guess WE should buy it. Ensure 51% of the shares are locked up tight. It is a private company, so Valve would have to be cool with it. Otherwise, the wrong person getting a divorce, dividing assets in half, and it is all over.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

DONE with valve if this were to happen.

I'd rather not game at all than put up with that shit.

[–] odium@programming.dev 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If it happens, the call of the seas will be irresistable.