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The two progressive lawmakers have addressed massive crowds in solidly red states including Idaho and Utah in recent days, as party of the national Fighting Oligarchy Tour.

A survey taken by Harvard's Center for American Political Studies and Harris between April 9-10 found that 72% of Democratic voters supported politicians like Sanders (I-Vt.) and Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.), "who are calling on Democrats to adopt a more aggressive stance towards Trump and his administration and 'fight harder'," rather than leaders who are willing to "compromise" with President Donald Trump.

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[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 15 points 3 days ago (1 children)

72% of Democrats Want Party to Abandon Centrist Approach to Trump

Party: But who will help us become exponentially richer then?

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[–] vxx@lemmy.world 75 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

Centrist approach?

USA has a conservative Party and a Neonazi Party

[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 21 points 4 days ago

Sounds about White.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

Two old rich white men arguing over the proper way to do genocide against brown people. Then they both get upset when brown people stop buying their shitty products.

[–] Sunflier@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Right: Genocide ALL undesirables without due process.

Left: Genocide nobody without due process.

Centrist: Clearly there is middle ground. So, lets genocide some people without due process.

[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Can't i just have a little genocide? As a treat.

[–] secretvaporeon@lemm.ee 2 points 2 days ago

Well since you asked so nicely and as a centrist I’m so conflict averse I prioritize harmony over any sort of moral compass then yes, have as much as you want. Just stay polite or I’ll gently chastise you and then give in to you anyway.

[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 56 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I want to abandon the centrist approach, period. No more reaching across the aisle, no more insider trading, no more letting capitalists dictate how society should be. America has given capitalism a nearly free hand to determine the nation's destiny, and it has lead to death camps, fascism, and stolen the prosperity that workers had earned with their sweat.

It is time to try a completely different approach to economics and an overhauled Constitution.

[–] andybytes@programming.dev 13 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I don't want to hate on it, but it's like we don't respect the Constitution as it is anyways. And the origins of this country was rich landowners. So technically we're all just kind of like livestock. I guess simply what I'm saying is we have to actually become a real country. And that will require kinetic input.

[–] fossilesque@mander.xyz 14 points 4 days ago

It should have been a living document. This is how you know these idiots are a death cult.

[–] secretvaporeon@lemm.ee 7 points 3 days ago

Earned with their blood*

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 85 points 4 days ago (10 children)

Kamala didn't lose by being "Too woke", she lost by saying "Maybe the Right can have a little fascism, ya know, as a treat?"

[–] NutWrench@lemmy.ml 21 points 4 days ago (1 children)

This is why I want to see AOC as a candidate and NOT Harris. We need a candidate who is less, "reaching across the aisle" and more "boots on necks."

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[–] VasovagalSyncope@lemmy.world 13 points 3 days ago

Billionaires don't deserve a seat at the table.

We wouldn't let any other group of 3000 people contort our entire society to their will.

[–] skisnow@lemmy.ca 41 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Won't happen. There's long been a gap between what registered party members want and what those in charge actually do.

We saw the same thing in the UK a few years ago when Jeremy Corbyn got a huge swell of support from the party proper, but all the other Labour MPs collectively rounded on him and conspired to kick him out of the party altogether because he was going to put a stop to their gravy train.

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[–] BigMacHole@lemm.ee 127 points 5 days ago (2 children)

72%? That's CLEAR CUT that we MUST move MORE RIGHT!

-The DNC Literally!

[–] Hellahunter@lemmy.world 50 points 5 days ago (9 children)

Yeah I’m expecting the dnc to double down with Kamala and maybe Pete as a running mate.

[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 11 points 4 days ago

I'd bet real money they'll try to run Shapiro. They dont see a terrible republican competitor as a must-win competition, they see it as a chance to run the worst dem they can possibly get away with.

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[–] gregs_gumption@lemm.ee 88 points 5 days ago (1 children)

The actual question that 72% of Democrats support:

Do you support more Democrats like Bernie Sanders and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez who are calling on Democrats to adopt a more aggressive stance towards Trump and his administration and “fight harder”, or moderate Democrats who are willing to compromise on Trump issues important to their base?

The question is "do you want to fight Trump more" not "do you support AOC and Bernies progressive agenda".

Link to the actual poll results.

[–] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 55 points 5 days ago (2 children)

It's interesting that they explicitly, rather than implicitly, chain compromise with Trump to the moderates, and fighting Trump to the progressives. Without that, that number might have even been higher. This reads to me like a solid condemnation of the moderates.

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[–] dylanmorgan@slrpnk.net 68 points 4 days ago (1 children)

THEN FUCKING DO IT.

If the party “leaders” aren’t with it, kick them the fuck out.

[–] lobut@lemmy.ca 34 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (3 children)

I think that's what's going to happen. AOC is taking on Chuck Schumer:

[–] timbuck2themoon@sh.itjust.works 17 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Maybe if people show up to vote. The only poll that matters is in the voting booth.

[–] lobut@lemmy.ca 16 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Facts. It's all for naught is people can't get off their butts and vote.

Local voting is important too as is being engaged with local politics.

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[–] slappypantsgo@lemm.ee 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

AOC and Sanders ARE the centrists. That’s the key to understanding the issue here.

[–] Charlatan@lemm.ee 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Sanders?... Maybe. AOC... No freaking way.

You want a centrist that Dems should listen to? See Adam Frisch in my state. Almost beat Boebert TWICE in her home county.

[–] slappypantsgo@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago

They are in the exact center of the policial spectrum. I realize that is difficult to understand for some folks, but I will explain it as best as I can. AOC is approximately exactly the midpoint between me and Trump. That is what the political spectrum means.

They are obviously among the most leftist elected politicians in the US, but that’s not saying much. We need to get our brains out of this mainstream media cesspool of “centrist” or “moderate” meaning “not a right wing extremist”.

[–] MECHAGODZILLA2@midwest.social 42 points 4 days ago

Abandon centrist approach and take a hard right turn? The Democratic Party hears you loud and clear! But seriously I do see the Sanders people in places of power I previously have not in the party - this is a very good sign in a very bad time

[–] asg101@lemmy.blahaj.zone 21 points 4 days ago

Doesn't matter what the people want, the democrat's corporate masters make the decisions.

[–] jabeez@lemmy.today 31 points 5 days ago (1 children)

DNC: LOL no, but can you please send us just $20 this one time, before it's too late!

[–] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 31 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Please, [wrong name], we need $5 to make Chuck Schumer wag his finger at the republicans for arresting all LGBT people

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[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 25 points 5 days ago (12 children)

If we want leftist leadership we have to abandon the Democratic party.

I will be VERY surprised if the Neoliberals who have controlled the DNC for the last 50+ years would willingly give up control.

They proved in 2016 they would rather lose to Trump than allow leftists to change things at the expense of their rich doners.

[–] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 16 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Nah. We can and should do a tea party style takeover. The iron is hot, let's strike.

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[–] DeusUmbra@lemmy.world 14 points 4 days ago

Democrats won't abandon their centrist positions as long as the Clintons live. If voters want a party to represent them, they need to get rid of the current ones.

[–] GoodOleAmerika@lemmy.world 11 points 4 days ago

Still getting bribery from AIPAC?

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