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[–] missandry351@lemmings.world 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Yes I believe violence is never the solution, but since there are people out there that don’t share my ideas, I need to keep some police officers around to keep me safe and some military personal to keep my country safe.

[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 2 points 6 days ago (4 children)

To keep the peace it's all or nothing. Nobody has weapons or everybody has weapons. Since the former is pretty hard to achieve, the latter must happen.

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Does everybody include convicted serial killers?

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[–] PurpleSkull@lemm.ee 0 points 6 days ago

Utterly dumb. Or is there a special meaning I'm just not getting?

[–] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 6 days ago (2 children)

this is ironically, a fallacious argument.

The implication here is that violence literally never solves problems. The actual implication is that violence generally doesn't provide a reasonable solution to problems, which everybody would be inclined to agree with, even in the case of military/police conflicts.

Have a better argument next time :)

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[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world -4 points 6 days ago (7 children)

Another strawman comic meant to express the author's political opinions and nothing more. I should start collecting these, the 4 panel ones all have the same 4 panels

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[–] entwine413@lemm.ee 108 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

Violence is often the solution, but it shouldn't be the first solution we try.

It's stupid to assert that law enforcement should be completely unarmed. There's absolutely legitimate situations where it's in the public's best interest. Now, the situations that do require it aren't super common, but they exist.

[–] AppleTea@lemmy.zip 66 points 1 week ago (3 children)

In the US at least, law enforcement is overarmed. We'd cut back on a lot of unnecessary violence if, say, officers kept their guns in the trunk rather than on their hip.

[–] themoken@startrek.website 39 points 1 week ago

Police Union: How could you trample on the sacred rights of the police to escalate any situation into multiple fatalities?

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[–] SaltSong@startrek.website 60 points 1 week ago (18 children)

Violence is almost always the solution. Civilization is an effort to find a better solution. But people who reject the systems we've built up seem to forget why we built then.

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[–] Snowclone@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

I mean... I do agree police shouldn't have weapons. They're less likely to die at work than an Aborist.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Arm the pizza delivery drivers!

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[–] leadore@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (6 children)

First panel: I agree with the aspiration to avoid violence but allow for circumstances like self-defense or defense of a vulnerable party.

Second panel: I do agree we shouldn't give them weapons, at the least not lethal weapons, certainly not military-grade weapons.

Third panel: If you want to be capable of preserving your national sovereignty, having a military is required, therefore justified in that context.

Fourth panel: While the two previous questions logically follow from the position stated in the first panel, the last question makes no sense and is a complete non-sequitur from the stated position. [i.e. "Violence is never a solution" --> "oh, so do you mean it's a solution in this one case? !? !" <--non-sequitur]

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[–] NotSteve_@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I was never for increasing funding for the military until the US started threatening Canada

[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 6 days ago

Plot twist, you're American.

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