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[–] ProfHillbilly@lemmy.world 4 points 4 hours ago

I asked this before but it might have been buried. Can I run this in a web browser because when I go to the site it wants me to download.

[–] JakobFel@retrolemmy.com -1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Anything for people to avoid using services like Proton Mail. They'll ask for a Mozilla webmail, an X web mail, but won't use an objectively more secure service. Baffles me 🤷‍♂️

[–] secret300@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Didn't I just hear some shady shit from them like last month?

[–] Sarcasmo220@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 hours ago (1 children)
[–] JakobFel@retrolemmy.com -2 points 51 minutes ago

The fact that it's "shady" for a company's CEO having an opinion tells me you'd do better in a communist dictatorship. Just saying.

[–] Nexy@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I already have tuta and libreoffice

[–] null@slrpnk.net 3 points 9 hours ago (3 children)

How the uptime with Tuta these days? Was hearing some negative reviews about extended outages a while back.

I want to leave Proton, but I fear for the day I need a 2FA code and I can't get it.

[–] Nexy@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 7 hours ago

I, personally, didn't have any concern so far.

[–] AlienContact2049@lemmy.ca 3 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I am trying to outrun evil techbros but it's impossible...

[–] null@slrpnk.net 2 points 8 hours ago

Sure, but if I can dodge one by simply switching email hosts, why not?

[–] envoy@lemm.ee 2 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

What’s wrong with proton?

[–] kixik@lemmy.ml 2 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

Well, I wouldn't like AI in any communication client of mine. Perhaps if it's local to my box I would like that, but this solution really seems cloud based, meaning one could have an AI crawling over one's data, to do whatever it wants with it. And local solutions usually are not as "good" as the cloud ones for whatever reason (hardware availability, data, and so on):

for users on less powerful hardware, the development team has integrated NVIDIA’s confidential computing to keep any remote processing secure. Rest assured, those who prefer to skip AI services can continue using Thunderbird without these extras.

There's still tuta, or even /e/ (now a days murena), which still seem safer privacy wise than this new thunderbird option.

I'm really hoping for a "librewolf" kind of fork oriented to privacy, and betterbird doesn't offer anything like that. The phoenix project has a safer user config for both firefox and thunderbird, but that doesn't get rid of components (well perhaps it could possibly turn them off, though to make sure they better get ripped at build time).

Does any one know if this new TB service would offer caldav and carddav services as well? I didn't see anything on stalwart advertisement.

[–] danielquinn@lemmy.ca 20 points 20 hours ago

This is great news, and I might be tempted to use it if I had some reassurance that the mail servers (and the organisation that controls them) weren't subject to U.S. jurisdiction.

[–] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 13 hours ago
[–] arotrios@lemmy.world 72 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (57 children)

Ok, this part is pretty cool:

Thunderbird Assist will also be available. This experimental feature, developed in collaboration with Flower AI, offers optional artificial intelligence functionalities for users who want them while also addressing privacy concerns head-on. On devices robust enough to handle AI models locally, Thunderbird Assist processes everything on the user’s own machine.

However, for users on less powerful hardware, the development team has integrated NVIDIA’s confidential computing to keep any remote processing secure. Rest assured, those who prefer to skip AI services can continue using Thunderbird without these extras.

I've been unwilling to touch cloud based AI, much less expose my emails to it as there's no guarantee of privacy, but being able to run a local model allows you the functionality without the risk. Haven't used Thunderbird in years, but this is tempting me to give it another shot.

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