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If you call out literal Russian propaganda (RT/Rumble) on .ml YOU'LL get the bans and comment removal, not the propaganda! (lemmy.world)

submitted 1 week ago by cm0002@lemmy.world to c/meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works

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Source: https://lemmy.world/post/27276890/15949688

Modlog: https://lemmy.world/modlog?page=1&actionType=All&userId=13662309

Your account seems new @blueridge@feddit.nu, sorry you had to deal with this but this is what happens on the tankie instance that is .ml

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[–] index@sh.itjust.works 10 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Interesting, this news sound like propaganda yet they allowed it and removed your comment. Sometimes they act shady as fuck over there.

[–] Nalivai@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago

Nothing really shady about it, it's quite obvious, they support Putin and his war against the world. Do they do it for free or because they're payed operatives remains unknown, but does it really matter at this point

[–] FarraigePlaisteach@lemmy.world 9 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Interesting. I had thought that instance was okay because when things like that happen, they are usually downvoted well into negative numbers. That’s the case in the example you linked to as well.But I never thought about the moderation problem.

[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 8 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Yea that's how most feel, the rest of the Tankie Triad, Hex and Grad, are much more in your face about it.

.ml aims for subtlety through admin and moderator action to avoid wider calls for defederation and also now that Lemmy is catching on to some degree, the main devs are letting the mask fall off on their "flagship" instance

[–] deeferg@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago

Hah, I flagged that dick today because of all of the bullshit that they're posting. Clesr as day Russian propaganda.

[–] Auntievenim@lemmy.world 54 points 1 week ago (23 children)

I just don't understand why a marxist would cape for russia at any point in any form. Russia is MORE capitalist than even america, at least until this past January. Might as well defend pinochet since he also was a unitary executive.

Socialism is when no bread mfs look at russia like "that's pretty socialist!"

[–] itslilith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 6 days ago (1 children)

The types of tankies you find on .ml are not so much Marxist as they are anti-USA (they'll call it anti-imperialist, nevermind the imperialism they're supporting)

That means they'll support everyone that's anti-USA. They'll cheer for al-Qaeda as long as they're shouting "Death to America". And that's only slight hyperbole

[–] peregrin5@lemm.ee 13 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I don't even think it's slight hyperbole. They literally would in the literal sense of "literally".

[–] monarch@lemm.ee 0 points 6 days ago

I have literally seen people that say that Assad was actually good.

[–] index@sh.itjust.works 4 points 6 days ago

Two faces of the same medal. People are brainwashed in taking sides. If you are not right-winged you are left-winged. They realize their government is shit and jump into the one of their enemies. Instead of study and think they conform to a model and feed on its circlejerk rejecting opposite views.

Not everyone on .ml is foolish but their modlog can get really stupid

[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 39 points 1 week ago (1 children)

In the campist brain, Russia is geopolitically opposed to the USA empire, and therefore since USA is the greatest evil, we need to "critically support" their opponents.

[–] FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Is pro-China sentiment just campist?

I have a sneaking suspicion they think the CCP are actually socialist/communist. And not some sort of authoritarian capitalism. Or “red” capitalism.

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[–] gigachad@sh.itjust.works 50 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

Somehow I feel lemmy.ml got more extreme over the last two years. RT news is the official foreign propaganda channel of Russia, almost everybody knows this (at least in Europe)..

[–] missingno@fedia.io 42 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Originally, .ml was the flagship instance for a fledgeling new software project, and the devs had to try and keep the mask on as much as they could for it to be a general purpose main instance. But over time that mask slipped, and users fled to other instances. Which means the only users left on .ml today are the fellow tankies. And knowing that, now they don't seem to try to hide it anymore.

[–] FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 6 days ago

The annoying thing is there definitely are a subset of ML users who aren’t tankies. And just kind of obliviously joined that instance because it was recommended to them.

My first lemmy account was on ML.

[–] Kaboom@reddthat.com 23 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

And the fact that it's run by the devs is a serious detriment. New users are going to take one look at it, and think Lemmy is tankie central. And the sane ones are going to leave.

[–] missingno@fedia.io 18 points 1 week ago (3 children)

This is part of why I chose a Mbin instance over Lemmy. It's hard for me to even recommend Lemmy the software because of its devs.

[–] monarch@lemm.ee 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I know this probably isnt the right place to ask this question but what is mbin. I know people said it was like kbin but I have no clue what that is ethier.

[–] missingno@fedia.io 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

It's another link aggregator/forum software that uses the same ActivityPub protocol as Lemmy, Mastodon, PixelFed, Peertube, etc. Meaning that Mbin instances can talk to Lemmy, as well as any other Fediverse software.

Mbin forked off of the earlier Kbin when the original developer kinda went MIA.

https://joinmbin.org/

[–] monarch@lemm.ee 1 points 6 days ago

I set up an account will definitely give it a go.

[–] tal@lemmy.today 10 points 1 week ago

I wish that they were API-compatible so that the same clients could be used, which is the big weakness of the non-Lemmy Threadiverse servers.

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[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 26 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

It probably has, they've spent just the last almost 2 years or so of Lemmy-verse growth since the Reddit API debacle banning, censoring and ostracizing newcomers that didn't fit in with the tankie mindset

They've become the echo chamber they always accuse .world/.ee/SJW of being

[–] Funkwonker@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 1 week ago

I've noticed the same thing. I do think part of it is .ml has been accruing users from other, more widely defederated instances like lemmygrad and hexbear.

Trolls want an audience, after all.

[–] jimmy90@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

long overdue to defederate

lots of them have smurf accounts on other instances anyway these days

[–] XTL@sopuli.xyz 21 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'm in this picture and was mildly amused. It is indeed a propaganda post and comments pointing that out seem to get deleted.

[–] UpperBroccoli@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 1 week ago

Except for one that says it is balancing out other propaganda, as if that made it any better...

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