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[–] Tungsten5@lemm.ee 8 points 12 hours ago (7 children)

Im still not convinced that crypto is worth it. It seems like just about everyone either loses money in crypto or makes very little, chasing a dream laid out to them by some youtuber who is part of the very small group to make any nice amount from it. Just seems too volatile and sketchy

[–] dick_fineman@discuss.online 5 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

Crypto is basically a ponzi-scheme. I made a little bit off of it, then sold too early. Then bought back in, and sold way too early. Then bought back in, then lost a lot. The only real benefit is anonymity, which I don't really need and only really benefits criminals. I don't see it taking over if someone like the EU introduces fee-free digital transactions.

[–] Tungsten5@lemm.ee 1 points 10 hours ago

Sounds very similar to what I have heard most other users say. Yeah, not the best. When the whole doge coin thing was going down (feels like forever ago) I ‘invested’ $100 and made a profit of $3. I never got involved in crypto again. Im trying to maintain my 100% success rate. Have a good rest of your day my fellow King

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[–] Maxxie@lemmy.blahaj.zone 62 points 18 hours ago (7 children)

The real brain melter was the societal culture shift.

I grew up witnessing "the end of history" with my own eyes. People were getting wiser and kinder year after year, decade after decade. It was like a feedback loop of positive changes, the only way was up.

Then 2010s hit and I'm still processing the 180 degrees shift. I read dozens of books about nazis, authoritarianism, societal memory, cults, fucking roman empire. But I still have cognitive dissonance every time I open news feed.

[–] Dragonstaff@leminal.space 5 points 11 hours ago

That's the saddest thing about people born after the 90s. We expected the future to get better. Kids now are just hoping we don't destroy everything.

[–] Bosht@lemmy.world 9 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

Holy shit thank you. You finally put it into words for me. The shift of 'the internet is the greatest tool for knowledge, to what it is now, some cancerous corpo bloated bullshit that ignorant people are harnessing just to find others to support their shitty beliefs. Been such a hard thing to watch and understand how the fuck we got here.

[–] Devmapall@lemm.ee 5 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

I think it's lack of empathy as the root for everything.

Which I believe is opposite of human nature but here we are.

[–] Maxxie@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (2 children)

Empathy is easily used for propaganda as well. All those "immigrants are going to r your wife" and "radical elites transing your children" are the appeals to empathy that work very well (there are examples from the left too lets be honest, they're just less unhinged)

IMO you need empathy, rationality and introspection: empathy to feel for your fellow human, rationality to not fall for the grift, introspection to realize in what ways you were an idiot and self-correct.

The wave of scepticism that will inevitably come in 2030s will weed out the grifters, but I doubt it'll last. Time is a flat circle afterall.

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[–] minkymunkey_7_7@lemmy.world 20 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Facebook and unregulated social media. Up to now most governments in the world don't even have a clue or idea that the internet is a very powerful tool that should actually be regulated because there are very evil people who will always act in bad faith to manipulate others for power and control. The Golden era of the internet is definitely over, I think 2016 was a defined shift that will be recorded by historians.

[–] holdstrong@lemm.ee 7 points 17 hours ago (5 children)

In fairness, most internet users would have been extremely against regulating social media until quite recently

[–] stopdropandprole@lemmy.world 11 points 17 hours ago

it's all about how the regulations are designed... for the benefit of corporations? or regular people?

for example, there could easily be rules placing caps on the amount of advertising that's allowed on any given platform. no fucking way now the government will ever put that cat back in the bag now that the 20 percent of GDP comes from tech monopolies fueled by advertisements.

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[–] iamai@lemm.ee 5 points 14 hours ago

Nice, you're spot on. We bonded for a while.. now we're in entropy!

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[–] Saltycracker@lemmy.world 4 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I’m old enough to remember going to Hollywood video or blockbuster with my grandma on Fridays. Have a movie night. Those were some amazing memories.

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[–] victoriathecompact@lemm.ee 14 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

"before 1990" ffs. I was expecting "before 1960"

[–] JamesTBagg@lemmy.world 4 points 12 hours ago

I've been called an "elder millennial" before and I thought that was funny. But just "elder"... bitch, fuck you!

[–] iamai@lemm.ee 3 points 14 hours ago

Feels like licking a 9v battery!

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 25 points 20 hours ago

elders

1990

[–] atempuser23@lemmy.world 9 points 17 hours ago

My grandparents lived in houses before electricity and lived long enough that computers in their pocket could talk to them. Hopefully it is a few centuries before that much happens in 103 years

[–] ubergeek@lemmy.today 31 points 22 hours ago (9 children)

It's not "brain melting". Even watching the internet go from "this is super neat, and way cool" (For nerds) to "Well, it's ALL going through enshittification now" wasn't "brain melting", it's just what happens under capitalism.

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 23 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (3 children)

Going from seeing nothing but possibilities when I heard about some new device or software coming out to dreading what they are going to remove or break has been one of the most depressing parts about my life.

Hell, I was looking to replace my 10 year old mouse last weekend and couldn't find one that was equivalent or better. I even asked people who were more into computer shit than me and I felt like I was taking crazy pills reading their responses. I ended up just fixing the problem myself rather than replacing it.

[–] stopforgettingit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 21 hours ago (5 children)

I have been looking for just the right mouse for ages and the market for mouses (mice?) is terrible. I've been looking for a 5 button mouse that supports bluetooth (reliability) and I am actually so frustrated with what the options are. They are either massively over engineered, huge, expensive paper weights or cheap, super light, cheap junk I can crush with my weak feminine hands. I have ranged from top of the line hundred dollar gaming one to junky light weight 10 dollar ones and I am still looking. (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻

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[–] hperrin@lemmy.ca 19 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

I don’t expect them to understand crypto. No one expects them to understand crypto.

I expect them to understand FUCKING FASCISM.

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 8 points 20 hours ago

Yeah.

We can move on to "complicated" things like crypto after we've made sure people understand basic things like FUCKING FASCISM.

Priorities.

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 15 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

Apparently I'm an elder.

The shifts in tech were easy.

It's the repeated economic punishment, school shootings, terrorist attacks, and political dive bomb this country has put us through that's been tough.

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[–] quack@lemmy.zip 16 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

Noone is expecting you to understand crypto, but I hear this about modern technology in general all the time and I just don't buy it. It's only brain-melting if you've spent your entire life being deeply incurious. There are 80-90 year olds who understand this shit just fine because they bothered to keep up.

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[–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 6 points 17 hours ago (4 children)

Is it really so hard to just stay somewhat connected to the world around you?

It's not like it was a rapid shift, this shit has been progressing for DECADES and some just refused to learn. I've talked to 30 yos who can't do anything beyond basic computer usage, and I've seen a 80 year old who was extremely with it and troubleshooting with me.

It's not an age problem, it's a lack of effort

[–] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago

I did not have any exposure to internet my until having to join online classes in 2020 pandemic, and it was still not as bad as some people make it seem.

[–] omnichronos@lemm.ee 3 points 15 hours ago

Exactly. I'm 61, and I first used a computer in 1980. My uncle was receptive, so as I helped him over the years, he became more and more proficient until now. He can do most of his troubleshooting on his own, and he's ten years older than I.

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[–] MeowKittyWow@lemmy.ca 5 points 17 hours ago

Okay, as someone born in 1988, I am not an elder (but also I will accept you being kind to me please, thank you 🫠)

[–] riodoro1@lemmy.world 19 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Nobody is expected to understand crypto. Same with the stock market and generally the economy. If it was simple and see thru you couldn’t run this many scams.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 7 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (2 children)

Same with the stock market and generally the economy.

Okay, you can tap the breaks on that one. There's a book from 1949 called "The Intelligent Investor" that's been the benchmark for savvy stock market analysis for generations. Hardly the only one (although a lot of the newer stuff is just variations on the core themes). Understanding price-to-earnings, market share, debt-to-asset ratios, and marginal return gets you a long way towards consistent middle-of-the-road long term safe returns.

Same with The Economy. Get a copy of Piketty's Capitalism in the 21st Century and you will have a firm grasp of macro-economic models and trends by the end of it. You'll get a core understanding of the difference between short-term investment returns and long term value creation. You'll get an idea for the broad reasoning behind different public policies and their impact on the broad growth and development trends seen over the last 500 years.

There's no need to mystify markets or economic systems. In the same way that a modern physician has a generally firm grasp of the human body (without knowing how every single cell is going to behave or every single genetic variant of human is going to respond to a given treatment), a modern business analyst has a generally firm grasp of their industrial or market focus.

Even crypto is something people can broadly understand as a modern iteration of a privatized experiment in currency manipulation. The thing about crypto is akin to understanding how a casino works. Analyzing the system doesn't mean you're going to be able to profit from it. Its like analyzing a grizzly bear with a plan to engage it in a boxing match. The best analysts will tell you "You're going to get horrible mauled if you interact with this thing, stay away."

If it was simple and see thru you couldn’t run this many scams.

The scams aren't a product of (lack of) transparency so much as they are the result of misinformation and market manipulation.

You've got a guy in a big wagon with a bullhorn selling "Better Than Aspirin!" for $10/pill right outside a pharmacy selling aspirin for $3/bottle in a bottom shelf at the back of the store. The moral of this isn't "Nobody will ever understand pharmaceuticals". It is that there's is a great deal of money in capturing people's attention and then lying to them.

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[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 6 points 19 hours ago

I grew up using the (actual paper) card catalog in the library to find books and yes I predate VHS. However, I even understand crypto, but I think my definition may vary slightly from younger folks "understanding".

Crypto has no intrinsic value like gold, and as fiat currency isn't even backed by any nationstate. This means any appreciation is based upon the "greater fool" model. Its not an investment. Its a series of Ponzi schemes so repeated that the term "rug pull" is right at home in the crypto world. I'm old enough to see other Ponzi schemes and know how they end up.

The only real value that I can see for crypto is bypassing of national monetary controls. As in, you can buy crypto in your home country with your home country's currency, then travel to another country with just your coins (as hex values on paper if you want to go that far) and exchange those coins for fiat currency in the other country. This isn't unique to crypto though. You could do the same with buying rare Pokemon cards and transporting them with a slightly higher risk of seizure at one nation's border. There might even be less volatility in Pokemon cards than many crypto currencies.

So many trends are variations on things we've already seen before. Bernie Madoff would have been right at home with cypto.

[–] Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 20 points 1 day ago (12 children)

I understand crypto... and it is utter shit.

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[–] rustbuckett@lemmings.world 5 points 20 hours ago

I remember being happy to watch whatever came on one of the four channels that your TV could pick up with a rabbit ear antenna.

[–] centipede_powder@lemmy.world 34 points 1 day ago

Crypto? Yes, I know what a pyrimid scheme is.

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