Putin really meant, "Surrender AND die".
this post was submitted on 14 Mar 2025
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Ah yes, the peace talks...
Piss negotiations.
Funny how Putin offers "mercy" while bombing hospitals. His dictionary must define peace as "total submission."
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Its wild to think that when this started I was not married and my now wife then girlfriend was still in college. Time flies. Aside from that, what the fuck putin?
Probably important to note that in American English, college refers to tertiary education ('university' elsewhere)
How far does college go? PhD?
I'm amazed he's offering "Surrender or die", I figured he'd pull an Israel and go "Surrender AND die"
That is definitely what will happen if they surrender though.
They say 'or', then they act out 'and'.
Putin must surrender or die
I'd love to fly that drone that does the job
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Can someone please take Putin out on a balcony
Some some glowing tea?
or a window in top floor of a skyscraper. Dude needs some fresh air.
He should fall for so long that he has time to regret his life choices. They should need to to a dna test to confirm it was him with from the shit stain in the crater.
Hey Putin, wanna hear a funny story?
For anyone not reading the article he is specifically talking about any troops Ukraine has left in the Kursk region as there has been a general pullback into Ukraine from Kursk in the last few days. This is not about the wider peace negotiations.
Strange because the actual title of the article mentions that fact. it appears the link seeks to make it as clickbaity as possible.
Yeah. I didn't like that. I don't like Putin but misinfo isn't going to help.
Surprises me even more because it is VOA.
"but misinfo isn’t going to help"
tell that to literally all of politics
For anyone not reading the article
ie. everybody in the thread
He actually said, " Ukrainians must surrender or I die" but the media being what they are....
Trump was supposed to end this war in a day. Has it been a day yet?
Yes a very weird one... Albeit a long one.
TBF he never specified which day.
One of his goons said he WILL end it in a day. How far away that day is... who knows.
Check again tomorrow
Europe, I hope y'all are doing the whole "speak quietly and carry a big stick."
Because if Putin steam rolls Ukraine, he's not stopping there, and now he has the US government under his control too.
Europe is doing the opposite of “speak quietly and carry a big stick”
Bet.
We ready bruv
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Finland isn't what I'm quite so worried about yet.
Its more Estonia. And Latvia. And Moldova, Romania, Poland, Chezchia, Slovakia, Serbia, Bulgaria, etc.
Hungary and Belarus I think we can say are pretty much already Russia.
Also I didn't know about the Kaliningrad Oblast, anyone know what the fuck happened there?
Kaliningrad was German before (Königsberg) but was annexed by the Soviets after WW2 and Russified. At the time there was a land border through the Baltics. When these former Soviet states broke free, Kaliningrad remained Russian.
That raises a lot more questions
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Why? Lol
There are two "why"s: Why Kaliningrad became.part of Soviet Union and why it ended up as part of the Russia in 1991. Here the answers to both:
After WWII, Germany had to give USSR a lot of land as a form of reparations. Mostly this was done by handing parts of Germany in the east to Poland, expanding Poland to the west AND them handing the same amount of territory from Poland to USSR, essentially forcibly moving Poland westwards. This was quite an a-hole thing to do to Poland. Also, it had the weird effect that the culture and dialects of easternmost Poland suddenly moved to westernmost parts of Poland. There is a weird dialect border where if you go west past the old German border, suddenly you have eastern dialects. But, the Königsberg area had been an integral part of Germany for a long time before WWII began, so it was possible to simply annex it to USSR and that's it. Germans were expelled from it, and the area was largely empty. Soviet Union decided to make it part of the state called RSFSR, not a new state, even though the annexed parts of easternmost Germany were not connected to the rest of RSFSR.
When parts of Poland were annexed to USSR in the process of moving Poland westwards, those parts were made part of the "Ukrainian Socialist Soviet Republic" (which was called "USSR" within Soviet bureaucracy, heh!)
Why the Kaliningrad area wasn't made a part of the neighbouring "Lithuanian Socialist Soviet Republic", is an interesting question! Probably because in Ukraine the Russification was already quite far, in Lithuania absolutely not.
In any case, in 1991 the Soviet Union fell. Each state became an independent country. Kaliningrad was a part of RSFSR, and that became the Russian Federation, so Kaliningrad ended up as a part of the Russia.
Yeah kaliningrad oblast came like as a surprise to me as well some years back. Like what the fuck is a piece of Russia doing there?!
Estonia is a EU and NATO country. It's not part of NORDEFCO but we still have exercised with them extensively I believe especially after joining NATO.
Finland is the backbone of the Nordic defense.
And that's my favourite role. In the army we won the rope-pulling contest with me as anchor. The other teams wore fucking boots while we had sneakers on (because dress code says no boots with exercise gear) so they broke military dress code and accused us of cheating.
I know I wasn't the strongest member of our group (we had one EU judo champion who could toss a 10-20kg exercise ball to the ceiling of a sports hall like 10m high), but I was the most unyielding one with the most spirit and anger and that's infectious.
I like to think I channeled the spirit of Óðinn:
As mentioned above, Odin’s name can be translated as “Master of Ecstasy.” His Old Norse name, Óðinn, is formed from two parts: first, the noun óðr, “ecstasy, fury, inspiration,” and the suffix -inn, the masculine definite article, which, when added to the end of another word like this, means something like “the master of” or “a perfect example of.” The eleventh-century historian Adam of Bremen confirms this when he translates “Odin” as “The Furious.”[1] Óðr can take countless different forms. As one saga describes Odin, “when he sat with his friends, he gladdened the spirits of all of them, but when he was at war, his demeanor was terrifyingly grim.”
https://norse-mythology.org/gods-and-creatures/the-aesir-gods-and-goddesses/odin/
(as a side note odin was way gayer than ppl think and slightly genderfluid and I respect all lgtb and im not a racist, it's just something you have to mention when talking about norse myths)
And thats wholly tangential but it's what I bring to the table.. Let Vanja fucking try opening up another front.
Ok so I learned a lot there
But I like your spirit. Makes me glad y'all are there and not the US
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They have scheduled a committee meeting to decide where to plant the tree from which they might someday get big sticks.
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Man, what a peace-loving guy! Damn Ukraine for not stopping the war! >:/
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So... Let me check I get this right on the timeline.
America Europe Ukraine meet, agree to a 30 day ceasefire. Agree this tests if Russia is serious about ending the war. Putin gobbs off, surrender or die.
Categorical that Russia is not serious about ending the war.
Next steps boys
The cease fire was only for long range missiles anyways, didn’t affect the front line.
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