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The United States has placed Switzerland on a list of countries with "unfair trade practices".

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[–] Clbull@lemmy.world 8 points 6 hours ago

Does Trump want to fuck with the impenetrable banking fortress nation that is Switzerland?

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 10 points 9 hours ago

And we have been doing exactly what President Trump wants for a long time.

And now you can see where it put you. Nowhere.

[–] rxbudian@lemmy.ca 13 points 13 hours ago

Welcome to the Trump's list of bad countries, lets trade with each other.
We're growing fast ...

[–] Adderbox76@lemmy.ca 52 points 1 day ago

Trump is all about pretenses.

There are the "reasons" he's making those decisions, and then there are the "pretenses" he uses when the opportunity comes around to make them.

Swiss banks hold a lot of money from oligarchs and billionaires. Putin wants pressure put on them. But Trump has to find the "pretense" to do it so as to at least nominally not be seen as a russian asset. But what a coincidence, Lindt announces that they're going to supply Canada directly from Europe to avoid his tariffs. And BOOM. Pretense established.

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 18 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Lol.

As an American I would give my right nut to live there instead of here.

[–] Wanpieserino@lemm.ee 7 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

As Belgian I do think Switzerland is one of the best countries on the entire planet. There's a reason why they have 30% immigrants, and it's not because German is a fun language to learn 😁

[–] ajikeshi@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago

German

you do not need to learn german, switzerland has german, french and italian speaking regions

[–] MapleEngineer@lemmy.world 33 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Can we get a digital badge that the citizens of any advanced liberal democracy that Magastan panels as "bad" can proudly display on their socials?

[–] ahal@lemmy.ca 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Don't sully the "-stan" countries like that, they don't deserve that association.

[–] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Doesn't "Stan" just mean land of (these people)?

[–] ahal@lemmy.ca 8 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, it does. But I think the intent of "Magastan" is to draw a comparison to "those countries". But this is stooping down to Trump's level imo

[–] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 3 points 23 hours ago

Hmm yeah it could certainly be interpreted that way. I get your point. I've said Canukistan before, but not to denigrate others, however it could certainly be interpreted in a negative manner.

[–] dzso@lemmy.world 24 points 1 day ago (4 children)

How many months is it going to take for the Magats to realize they fucked America over?

[–] hanrahan@slrpnk.net 6 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

They won't, they're immensely supportiv"

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[–] CMonster@discuss.online 12 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

Even if they self aware enough to see that, they will never admit it.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 1 points 10 hours ago

they can be almost selfaware, r/selfawarewolves was a fun sub to visit.

[–] GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca 4 points 22 hours ago

Or they'll say they need to go through this difficult transition in order to return to their former glory.

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Empirical evidence says at least 100.

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

they'll long be dead and their grandchildren will still claim this as "the best time in American history".

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 147 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Lmao what the actual fuck? Switzerland…? He’s going after the Swiss now…? I just… wow. What is happening.

Edit: it’s apparently about - and I shit you not - chocolate. And it’s their volume market brand. Not even the really good stuff.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 4 points 10 hours ago

swiss banks have putins money in it.

[–] pntha@lemmy.world 52 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

they probably hold billions in frozen Russian assets

[–] Atherel@lemmy.dbzer0.com 70 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Switzerland has a positive balance of trade in goods and therefore appears on this list.

Ah that's why...

We have good arguments. And we have been doing exactly what President Trump wants for a long time.

Maybe it's time to fucking stop pleasing the orange cunt, he doesn't care!

[–] Eatspancakes84@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago (4 children)

This focus on the balance of trade is sooo stupid. The US spends more than it produces so it has an aggregate deficit on the trade balance. To stop this, you need to force Americans to spend less (I.e. ignite a recession), or produce more.

Tariffs against selected countries that have a strong bilateral trade surplus with the US will not affect the US’ aggregate trade balance, since it doesn’t affect consumption by/ or production of the US economy. This is common knowledge from econ 101, and shouldn’t need to be explained to a president that supposedly has a degree in business.

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[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 8 points 23 hours ago

LOL... well the clowns were elected to the presidency... why are we surprised at the never ending circus?!

Making quality products that people actually want to buy is a dishonest and abusive practice, I'm glad someone finally spoke up.

[–] N0body@lemmy.dbzer0.com 99 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Europe needs to see that unity is the way to go. A united Europe is needed to stand against the mad kings in Russia and the US.

[–] wewbull@feddit.uk 14 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Europe, the place where 27 separate sovereign nations have formed a Union, needs to realise how important it is to be united?

Is that what you're saying?

Well tbey are commenting this on an article about switzerland, which is not in the EU. Though it is in Schengen and the EEA.

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[–] random_character_a@lemmy.world 38 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What? Swiss banks been mean to Putin?

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[–] filister@lemmy.world 56 points 1 day ago (3 children)

The US is on a way to piss off all of its trading partners and former allies.

[–] nicky7@lemmy.ml 36 points 1 day ago (1 children)

We're never going to recover. He's speed running the fall of a nation.

At least Nero had some musical talent on display while Rome burned. This guy can't even dance.

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[–] Skunk@jlai.lu 29 points 1 day ago (1 children)
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[–] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 44 points 1 day ago (2 children)

He's either completely senile or doing Putin's bidding by destroying whatever is left of the US's international credibility.

[–] Raiderkev@lemmy.world 25 points 1 day ago

Por que no los dos?

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[–] SabinStargem@lemmings.world 3 points 22 hours ago

If nothing else, at least Magats won't be able to hide their gold there anymore.

[–] Remember_the_tooth@lemmy.world 36 points 1 day ago (2 children)

He's doing the best Zapp Brannigan impression I've ever seen.

[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 29 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The US is so fucked. People are not going to give the bully their lunch money. They’re going to team up against the bully.

[–] TylerBourbon@lemmy.world 4 points 21 hours ago

Which is good, and I say that as an American. The current leadership cannot be trusted. It's going to be a long time before we can be trusted again. If ever.

[–] commander@lemmings.world 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Fuck, I wish the government was this enthusiastic about unfair trade practices within its own country.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

Except it has nothing to do with unfair trade practices. It's all about breaking down the world order to make room for Russia.

[–] LMurch@thelemmy.club 3 points 23 hours ago

Omg, we are absolute shit right now.

[–] ShittyBeatlesFCPres@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Switzerland might really be one of the few countries no one can ever take over. Even if no one else cared — they will — sending troops running up a mountain where everyone has rifle skills and hidden bunkers is definitely not a military strategy I ever heard of.

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