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People should be allowed to exist

Social programs aren't communism

The system isn't working for the people

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I've changed my mind on this.

Let the DNC go full MAGA and when they lose, because they will lose, they get the heat and we can eject them forever. At least sit them in a corner.

Progressives, you fight if you want but I don't believe the elections will be fair so it's a win win for you.

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[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 30 points 1 day ago (9 children)

I've been saying this for a number of months now you got to kill this party. Abandon it completely. We got to start a new party. We got to start a labor party. A worker party. A party of the people. Whatever we want to call it, but whatever it's called it's a party that's not for the big corporate donors that control the Democratic Party. The Democratic party basically since the late '70s but certainly since the '80s abandoned the people the peoples issues. They're not coming back.

[–] chilicheeselies@lemmy.world 4 points 18 hours ago

I kind of agree, but it needs to be a serious party that proves itself. I wont vote for some joke party that only runs in presidental elections. They need to put in the work and run (and win) in smaller more local elections before i would consider giving my vote.

Ideally, this party would fill in the gap the republicans left behind after dying.

For the foreseeable future though, i dont have a choice other than to vote dem

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 17 hours ago

The system of "parties" and "representation" is a complete joke that's a root cause of this genocidal empire.

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[–] rocket_dragon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 148 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Jesus Christ, is this real?

Big cities have problems, but they are still far better off than small town rural America. There isn't some specific failure happening in large cities, you're seeing the broad inevitable enshittification of Capitalism as a system.

Democrats must be some serious masochists, they would actually rather take the blame thenselves than admit capitalism is wrong.

DNC: we tried bootlicking billionaires and it didn't work, what if we double down on bootlicking billionaires even harder.

[–] LostWon@lemmy.ca 70 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's also reported here. This fits with the reports of complaining that Democratic Congresspeople have been doing about the progressive wing of the party wanting them to fight back against DOGE. They and party leadership may well be aiming to not just talk like it, but fully become the new Republican party, in hopes of having a stampede of "moderate" Republicans who aren't happy with Trump come their way.

[–] LostWon@lemmy.ca 45 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Also, big donors are angry at them, so I guess they're trying to win those donors back.

[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 36 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's always about the dollars, not about the votes

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[–] jonne@infosec.pub 35 points 1 day ago

The top of the Democratic party basically wants to become the party of big money and try and steal this mantle from the Republicans.

Obviously, this isn't going to work because the donors will just go for the party that will give them more, and they will always be the Republicans party.

This is basically just the campaign advisors trying to get as much money into the campaigns as possible, because they get a cut of every ad buy. They're not interested in making things better for the people, just looking at their bottom line.

[–] cybervseas@lemmy.world 108 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The…dominance of small-dollar donors? I wish.

[–] AstridWipenaugh@lemmy.world 54 points 1 day ago (4 children)

If the small donors are dominating... Why would you abandon them?

[–] OutForARip@lemmy.ca 28 points 1 day ago

Because they’re not giving the bribes that the big donors give. Politicians expect a high paying effortless lobbying job as reward for selling out their country.

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[–] cybersin@lemm.ee 61 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The "far left" has a disproportionate influence on policy and messaging?

What a joke.

They're going to use this defeat to blame progressives and Walz (who consistently had the highest favorability of anyone on either side of the race) instead of their conservative cop Kamala.

[–] jonne@infosec.pub 37 points 1 day ago

They selected Walz because he was polling the best (because he talks like a normal person), and then they basically hid him because they didn't like what he said. Not sure if he did any interviews after the Jon Stewart one where he was slightly too honest about Liz Cheney.

[–] thespcicifcocean@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago

Excuse we, what?

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 24 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What's not mentioned in this excerpt is that this was sponsored by Third Way, a think tank that is singlemindedly devoted to convincing Democrats to cut the left out of the party. God knows the DNC has its problems, but it's misleading to frame this as a mainstream Democratic conference.

"Moderates say party should go moderate" shocker

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 17 hours ago

Fascism is not moderate.

[–] Gobbel2000@programming.dev 10 points 1 day ago

Dear US-Americans, it is time to form a new, progressive party.

[–] tiredofsametab@fedia.io 17 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I'd like a list of those who subscribe to this theory to ensure not a single one of them ever gets a vote from me again. I'm an overseas voter and my "home" state is so gerrymandered to shit it doesn't really matter what I do anyway.

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[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 32 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (53 children)

The blue MAGA are here on Lemmy and I ran into couple of them. They keep shouting to the rooftops that the Democratic party did nothing wrong and berate Trump voters as stupid and ignorant. But they are tone deaf when you point out that the Democratic party is not willing to run on the platform on Medicare-for-all, build more social housing and increase federal minimum wage (and ditch Israel), which made the party unappealing and lose consistently. Basically, blue MAGA don't want to go left, because even if they are socially progressive on issues, they benefit from wealth inequality because they themselves are affluent in spite of being socially progressive.

Edit: yep, the blue MAGA came out of the woodwork. They think Medicare for all, affordable housing, and increasing minimum wage are red fascism.

[–] jjagaimo@sh.itjust.works 6 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

"26 replies" but I cant see any of them because I have those kinds of idiots blocked

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 4 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

I see that you have more experience of them than I do.

Turns out that the prominent posters, pugje$u$, is one of the blue MAGA.

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[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 46 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This is just the other half of the one party state

[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 35 points 1 day ago (37 children)

Looks like it to me.

Moderates have done nothing but sell their America out for a seat at an empty table. How could anything good come from people who are currently in charge of the shit show called the DNC?

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[–] notsoshaihulud@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I smell bullshit here, but yeah this is definitely a laundry list of exactly the stuff not to do. A moderate democrat is a Krysten Sinema and a Joe Manchin that exactly did a lot of damage to Democrats.

Also, owning up to democratic governance issues of large cities? Republicans run <20% of America's top 50 cities, and 10% of the top 30. Republicans are not in the business of running large cities, so WTF would give credence to them on a topic they literally have no expertise or relevant track record in doing.

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[–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 36 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The rightwing coup within the DNC. Those staffers and consultants need to be blacklisted from politics. They have done nothing but drive the country into fascism.

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[–] regrub@lemmy.world 33 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The Overton window just keeps sliding to the right

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