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I’m planning to install Arch Linux for the first time. Any recommendations on setup, must-have applications, or best practices? Also, what’s something you wish you knew before switching to Arch?

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[–] Petter1@lemm.ee 3 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

I can recommend using endeavourOS if you do not want to waste time

But if you want to learn, go for it! Make sure to have the arch wiki ready on a second device

And understand what chroot is, is very important 😆😌

Edit: Ah and don’t forget to install yet another yoghurt

[–] jimmy90@lemmy.world 0 points 2 hours ago

ditch it and go straight to NIxOS

[–] Jumuta@sh.itjust.works 7 points 10 hours ago (3 children)

don't use archinstall if it's the first time, the manual installation is not that hard

[–] Petter1@lemm.ee 1 points 1 hour ago

Yea, I would say either go for arch manually or go straight to endeavourOS

[–] Drito@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 hour ago

I installed Arch like that. When I had to do a new install, I forgot everything, then I used archinstall with Xfce option and it worked fine.

[–] Strawberry@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I learned so much from just going wiki-diving at every step of the installation and post-installation

[–] Jumuta@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 hours ago

i don't think i went wiki diving really, i just followed what it said but it gave me a nice overview of what does what in an arch system that i could expand on later

[–] untorquer@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (3 children)

Be aware that some apps will install fine from the arch repo but some others will be better installed from flatpack (e.g. inkscape) or directly as an executable (e.g. Godot).

On steam you may need to specify your video card if you run an AMD card using the DRI prime command. Some games will require -vulkan to use vulkan rather than game settings.

[–] brisk@aussie.zone 2 points 1 hour ago

What was your experience with Inkscape and Godot? I have those both installed from repo.

I've never felt the need to use flatpak at all on arch.

[–] Petter1@lemm.ee 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

What exactly works better on flatpak version? Until now, for any packages that were somehow different, repo vs flatpak, were working better in repo version. (Due to container thingy, because flatpak version could bot see everything and I was zoo lazy to fix it using flatseal 😆)

[–] JakeyFlex@lemmy.ml 1 points 49 minutes ago

I’ve had Discord not be up to date in the AUR. Moved to flatpak and haven’t had that issue.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 13 points 17 hours ago

Use EndeavousOS instead because the initial install process is simpler.

[–] terminhell@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 15 hours ago

Don't cheap out and use the hand holding script to ez mode the install. At least not the first time. You will learn a few things along the way.

[–] brisk@aussie.zone 6 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

Check ArchLinux.org for news before you kick off an update. It's got an RSS feed and a mailing list if that helps.

Read the Wiki, and turn to it first for any issues you have.

This one may be a special "me" problem, but if you're manually interacting with wpa_supplicant, stop and go read the Networking page in the Wiki again.

Learn how to use journalctl (at least superficially) before something goes wrong.

Generally you want to restart after an update to the kernel or graphics drivers or things start degrading strangely.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 2 points 17 hours ago

I'm surprised it isn't the norm to have a hook that checks it as part of pacman updating.

[–] Bonje@lemmy.world 13 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (2 children)
  • EndeavourOS is arch based with less hassle. Its more than good enough for most people. don't get trapped by minimal install bs and other non-consequential opinionative approaches to software.
  • Select btrfs as your file system and use timeshift. If you fuck up or if your updates fuck something up. There are other ways of doing rollbacks and this is just what I became familiar with. I've used it two times in the past year, its worth it.
  • Bookmark the archwiki, 99% of the time the answer to the questions of 'how to' and 'can i' are in there
  • There are multiple DE's. Pick what works best for you before you toss that bootable USB installer. You of course can switch later down the line, but experimenting now will save you config troubleshooting later, just stick to what feels/looks best. Look around on the web to see what appeals to your workflow. There are others like Cosmic and Wayland that are not included in the arch gui installer, in which case, follow the install procedures for the DE you want and remove the old ones to avoid config overlap.
  • Have Fun. If you are not, do something that is.
[–] lambipapp@lemmy.world 5 points 20 hours ago

I 2nd this wholeheartedly! Been using endeavourOS for years at this point! Before endeavourOS I was distro hoping the classics. I tried Ubuntu, fedora, popOS, Debian and way more throughout my time on linux. When I tried endeavour the first time I just stuck with it. It just worked, the updates are seamless and I just like get along with it.

[–] Disonantezko@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 19 hours ago

Wayland and Cosmic are not there yet for beginners, more like beta, watch videos from Brodie Robertson, I'll wait half year at least to try that for newbies.

[–] moonpiedumplings@programming.dev 6 points 19 hours ago
[–] _____@lemm.ee 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

The whole arch advantage (imo) is that you have a full understanding of what's in your machine and how it works.

As a beginner you won't understand and that's okay, but you should try different things (or don't and just focus on what works for you) as long as the end result is you doing: pacman -Qe and going "hmm that makes sense", and imo the undesired result is going "hmm what do these all do, why do I have 2000+ packages"

[–] loo@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Only update your system if you have some time on your hands afterwards, in case something breaks. Happened to me a few times before.

[–] American_Jesus@lemm.ee 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This.
"Just do a quick update" and spend 1h trying to fix some broken updates

Also look at https://archlinux.org/news/ before updating (or follow the RSS feed), some updates may need manual intervention

[–] CorrodedCranium@leminal.space 2 points 22 hours ago

Paying close attention to news feeds is something I wish I did when I ran Manjaro.

[–] Dima@feddit.uk 9 points 1 day ago

Arch is good for tinkering with to make it your own, but can sometimes require tinkering to do things other distros can do straight away, e.g. adding udev rules to use certain devices or setting up zeroconf to be able to discover printers on the network automatically

If you want to be able to roll back changes easily you could set up your root and home partitions as btrfs subvolumes and use snapper to take snapshots, which can be combined with pacman hooks to automatically take snapshots when updating/installing software and can even be set up to allow booting into the snapshots which could be useful if you break your system

[–] NateSwift@lemmy.dbzer0.com 40 points 1 day ago (3 children)

The ArchWiki is amazing, probably don’t start by installing nothing but a window manager and adding things you need as you go

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[–] onlooker@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 day ago (8 children)

Do yourself a favour and install it on a virtual machine first. Screwing up an install on Arch is frighteningly easy. The Arch Wiki is your friend, use it. Also, read the installation instructions before you begin the installation, not during. If this sounds like too much of a headache (understandably so), then give EndeavourOS a whirl.

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[–] drwho@beehaw.org 3 points 21 hours ago

For starts, read the wiki. Specifically, read the installation guide at least twice to get a feel for how it works and what the Arch vibe is like. This is also your chance to figure out just what you want to do. Do you want to use GRUB or UEFI? Which sounds like a better fit? What filesystem? What do you want to run? mdadm or not? A little bit of planning and reading is better than reinstalling half a dozen times (ask me how I know...)

Must-have applications? Screen or tmux. SSH. Whatever shell you're comfortable with (bash is how I roll, but you might be a fan of fish).

So many tips, let me add mine.

  • btop - for monitoring and process management
  • pacseek - terminal UI for installing, searching packages (uses yay)
  • chaotic aur - repo for prebuilt binaries that are generally ok

When installing use the archinstall the first time, unless you really want to go into the deep end and use the normal install.

[–] ndondo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 28 points 1 day ago (8 children)

EndeavorOS if you want to have an easy time. Also be comfortable reading documentation.

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[–] PumpkinEscobar@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (2 children)
  • archinstall is one of the better/best distro installs around - it just does what it says it will and is pretty intuitive
  • LUKS encryption is easy to set up in archinstall - strongly recommend encrypting your root partition if you have anything remotely sensitive on your system
  • If you do use encryption but don't like typing the unlock password every reboot, you can use tpm to unlock - yes, this is less secure than requiring the unlock password every time you reboot, but LUKS + TPM unlock is still MUCH better than an unencrypted drive just sitting there
  • sbctl is a good tool for secure boot - If you want to get more secure, locking down bios with an admin password, turning on secure boot, sbctl works really well and is pretty easy to use. I would suggest reading up to understand what it's doing before just installing/configuring/using it
  • yay is a solid AUR helper / pacman wrapper
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