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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.selfhostcat.com/post/93395

I've gone handwritten, obsidian, onenote, and now Trilium. Considering switching to something else because there is no offline mobile support.

I use memos and trilium together but since neither offers mobile offline support considering switching both. No reason to run two services when I could run one.

Considering:

  • Joplin
  • Logseq
  • SiYuan
  • ?
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[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 2 points 33 minutes ago

I've used Joplin for years. IDK why people have a hate on for it, it's fine.

[–] akilou@sh.itjust.works 1 points 30 minutes ago

Obsidian and it syncs to my home server

[–] Asparagus0098@sh.itjust.works 1 points 38 minutes ago

Obsidian with syncthing for syncing between my phone and PC.

[–] truxnell@infosec.pub 5 points 1 hour ago

I've been using logseq with syncthing for sync, across laptop/desktop/Android. Works ok, app can be a little chunky though and sometimes the manualness of coding queries can. E annoying. I have used joplin, trillium, Zim and a few others in the past. Installed silver bullet as a try too but haven't gotten far into playing with it

[–] tal@lemmy.today 2 points 1 hour ago

Org-mode in emacs.

There are various mobile clients.

If you have something to synch files, it's just syncing org files. Probably mostly interesting to people who use a lot of emacs on a PC, though.

[–] tehWrapper@lemmy.world 4 points 3 hours ago

TXT files I sync with syncthing.

Use amaze file manager built in txt editor on android and vim on desktop.

[–] TriflingToad@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 hours ago

300 page 5 subject 5-star branded binder for actual schoolwork

for personal scheduling/journaling?

[–] Evotech@lemmy.world 5 points 6 hours ago

Mostly just copious amounts of "new tab" in notepad++

[–] flop_leash_973@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago

I use Joplin. They have a sync server you can host for yourself.

[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Obsidian.md + paying for sync.

Transitioned from a mix of Keep + OneNote + Obsidian.md to just Keep (hidden todo list feature I utilize to keep track of shipping orders I have yet to receive) and obsidian.md (I have yet to import my old personal and work KB into the synced KB).
My other option was NotesNook

Heres my thread: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/34370838

[–] calmluck9349@infosec.pub 5 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Also Obsidian but with syncthing

[–] natch@lemmy.today 3 points 4 hours ago

Syncthing on my home server, synced with each device I use for notetaking, has been glorious so far. I wish Obsidian would offer Sync for a cheaper rate, because I'd pay if it felt like anything near the cost of actual sync and storage. But Obsidian's cheapest tier is more expensive than my email hosting!

[–] Libertus@lemmy.world 3 points 7 hours ago

I'm using https://anytype.io/. Offline applications for all major systems, synchronization out of the box.

[–] Thoven@lemdro.id 2 points 6 hours ago

I use joplin with joplin server running through a reverse proxy in a docker container. I love it. It also supports encryption, so you could use a more convenient service like Google drive and still be assured of your privacy.

[–] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 7 points 9 hours ago

It depends on the notes, for me:

I've had an oddly long-running obsession with Tiddlywiki!

It has a bit of a learning curve, but it's VERY flexible. My favorite part being that by default it's just a single, portable, HTML file. No special app required besides a browser, no accounts, and you can just sync it like any other file. (Syncthing, Nextcloud, and friends)

There's also an app called Tiddloid for Android to make managing and saving a little easier, but they open in any browser.

I have a Tiddlywiki that I use like one might use Obsidian, where I just stash stuff I'll want to remember and maybe link between similar ideas.

And then I'm currently trying to use it to make a solution to sketch out my Savage Worlds RPG campaigns. It gets a little tricky but you can make templates, script buttons, and that kind of thing. If you're already comfortable with web stuff you'll probably catch on WAY better than I have.

You can also host it as a website, or on your server or whatever, to use it like any other wiki. There's also plugins to use Markdown instead of "wikitext."

There's also an excellent guide to learning it at https://groktiddlywiki.com/read/ . It's basically an online workbook using Tiddlywiki itself!

The community is also super helpful. I do wish it had a little more out of the box, but something about a customizable, portable, digital "notebook" that doesn't require an account or hopefully-supported-in-5-years application is SUPER appealing to me. It's quite underrated.

Also just for fun I wanted to share my favorite example someone's been working on for quite some time now, a heavily customized D&D wiki

https://intrinsical.github.io/wiki/index.html

Tiddlywiki can be a bit dense and the documentation is slowly improving, but there's so much potential!

[–] nichtburningturtle@feddit.org 31 points 14 hours ago

Obsidian, or a normal txt

[–] fangleone2526@lemmy.world 11 points 12 hours ago

I use obsidian but I wish there was an open source notes platform that could do what I want:

  1. Excalidraw support ( or similar ) with PDF import and annotation support ( this is achieved by a plugin on obsidian )
  2. Vim mode
  3. Markdown for everything

I have tried so many notetaking tools and the closest I ever got was using xournalpp for PDF annotation and drawing, then writing plain markdown in helix / neovim, with a live markdown rendering pane on the side. Was just too clunky though.

[–] Father_Redbeard@lemmy.ml 15 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

I've tried 'em all. And I am always on the lookout for new apps that can do what I want. So far, Obsidian is the best.

  • Joplin: adds meta data to your text files making it nearly impossible to find anything outside of Joplin unless you export

  • Logseq: the closest substitute to Obsidian. The android app is almost unusable in my testing. And it's an outlined based note app, so it requires a different mindset

  • Silverbullet: such a neat project. The PWA runs great on every device I've tried it on. That said, I find it hard to navigate and will require more learning to take full advantage of its features

  • Nextcloud Notes: decent if you already have an instance running. Not worth it just for Notes though. It's very spartan, feature-wise

  • Quillpad: the closest Google Keep alternative I've found so far. Does require Nextcloud insurance to sync though. At least currently.

  • Acreom: very cool project. Similar to Obsidian and Logseq. Local first.....unless you're on mobile, then you are required to have an account and use their sync.

  • Notesnook: has great features but does not store the notes on plain text (due to encryption), which is a deal breaker for my use case

  • Memos: very easy to selfhost. Think of it like a personal twitter feed. Stores entries in a db file, so it's out for me

I tested others, and many didnt last long enough in my testing to even be worth writing about. I find Obsidian's folder hierarchy easier to fit around how my brain works. And the plain text files in folders, maintaining the hierarchy, is a killer feature for me. Lots of folks self host a sync solution. And I want to but am currently paying for their basic sync plan of $5/mo.

[–] perfectly_boiled_pizza@lemmy.world 17 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

I use Joplin. The functionality is nice, but visually the app looks a little outdated in my opinion. It's worth it though.

[–] dkc@lemmy.world 5 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Same, the builtin sync between devices using WebDAV was the critical feature for me choosing Joplin over Obsidian.

[–] TheHolm@aussie.zone 2 points 6 hours ago

Just a folder + syncthing. no extra infra is necessary + easy to backup.

[–] Count042@lemmy.ml 2 points 11 hours ago

I did too with the joplin sync server until, without a failure or any error messages, it ate all my notes.

[–] ChillPill@lemmy.world 3 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I currently have some notes in Nextcloud notes which I quite like. I don't need anything too fancy. Markdown is nice to have, but not required if there is some ui way to make checkboxes. If I remember correctly, in the nextcloud notes app you have to set the folder that it uses. Which makes shared notes impractical, if not impossible.

Because of this, I still have several notes shared with my wife in Google keep for things like shopping lists. I'm tempted to test out the shopping list function in home assistant, but not sure if it will fit the needs. Would be nice to find something that covers all my use cases in one app.

[–] sicco@feddit.nl 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

In Nextcloud you can use Deck or Collections for shared notes.

[–] ChillPill@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

Thanks, I'll have a look!

[–] nesc@lemmy.cafe 2 points 9 hours ago

org-roam but logseq is good too.

[–] sj_zero@lotide.fbxl.net 7 points 12 hours ago

Nextcloud notes is just my life now.

[–] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 13 points 14 hours ago

Nextcloud. But only because I already have it. I wouldn't set it up just for that.

[–] Wolfram@lemmy.world 5 points 12 hours ago

I use Obsidian with the obsidian-live sync docker container to sync data between devices instantaneously. It is not open source but they store plaintext markdown notes and its extendable with plenty of open source plugins.

[–] zigmhount@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 10 hours ago

I've used Logseq for 2-3 years but it's slow and a pain to use on mobile. I discovered Tiddlywiki in December, I love how customizable it is, but it's been taking me a while to tweak it to match my usual workflow. Running it via nodejs server on android (termux) and laptops (so I'm accessing it on localhost on all devices) and syncing the wikis between devices using Syncthing.

[–] johntash@eviltoast.org 2 points 10 hours ago

I've used a bunch, but I eventually moved to SilverBullet and will probably stick with it.

[–] Bitflip@lemmy.ml 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)
[–] ocean@lemmy.selfhostcat.com 1 points 1 hour ago

For notes??

[–] StringPotatoTheory@lemmy.world 3 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Obsidian + syncthing on both my computer and android phone. I love that I can selectively sync certain folders to my phone so not everything is there slowing it down.

I want to like logseq but all the bullet points feels weird to me.

[–] L_Acacia@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 hours ago

Logseq is also really really slow once you have a lot of notes unfortunately.

[–] popcar2@programming.dev 5 points 14 hours ago

I use Joplin. It's fairly simple and very comparable to Evernote if you've ever used that, but it's perfect for my needs.

I used LogSeq before, it's very similar to Obsidian, the big difference being that it's open source. It's got a ton of features and the built-in whiteboard is actually really good, but I found it a bit overkill for my simple note taking.

  • Logseq also makes each line start with a bulleted list which quickly made me go insane
[–] Shimitar@downonthestreet.eu 4 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Silverbullet for web access (including mobile pwa) and syncthing + markor on android.

Yes syncthing is well and alive on android (to prevent the usual posting "its dead on android", no it's not)

Joplin has a pretty slow UI and it doesn't save notes in standard markdown format.

[–] johntash@eviltoast.org 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Why not use the silverbullet pwa on android?

[–] Shimitar@downonthestreet.eu 1 points 9 hours ago

On android I prefer native apps.

[–] Object@sh.itjust.works 2 points 12 hours ago

If you're considering (something) + Syncthing, try Orgmode. It looks like Markdown but has a lot of features for note management and navigation.

[–] johnnixon@lemmy.world 3 points 14 hours ago

Trillium. It works well via browser and reasonably on a mobile browser.

Obsidian is excellent but I can't install any applications on my work computer and the web hosted version was buggy and slow. If I didn't have IT blocking me I'd be using Obsidian again.

[–] albert180@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 13 hours ago
[–] SnachBarr@lemm.ee 2 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Flat notes. I’ve tried a bunch of different more complex apps but I keep coming back to flat notes.

[–] haverholm@kbin.earth 1 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

As in a folder of text files? Because that's what I'm doing. Syncing across devices with Syncthing and editing/adding files with whatever markdown editor works best in each platform.

[–] muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee 2 points 13 hours ago

I use logseq. But I'm not entirely happy. Automation of processes is a pain in the ass. Mobile is buggy.

[–] SolarPunker@slrpnk.net 1 points 13 hours ago

Orgzly + Syncthing