I feel like a good countermeasure to tariffs would be to implement export tariffs. I'm not an economist but if you tax your own businesses exporting to the US and there are import fees on the other end as well, the importer gets absolutely screwed and will have to pass that along to the customer as well. Meaning a 25% tariff in the US could effectively be whatever price Canada wants it to be for the end consumer. Effectively turn the carrot into a stick.
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Here are some numbers to consider.
The US sold $441 billion worth of goods and services to Canada in 2024.
Canada sold $482 billion worth of goods and services to the US in 2024.
The US has a populating of 334.9 million people.
Canada has a population of 40.1 million people.
Per capita, every American man, woman, and child spent $1,316.81 on Canadian goods and services.
Candians spent $12,019. 95 on American good and services.
Who isn't pulling their weight in this trading relationship?
This isn't about illegal immigration and it isn't about the 20 lbs of fentanyl that tried to cross the border from Canada.
This is about the billionaire class raising taxes on the poor and raising prices for Americans.
This comment is a copypasta
Source? Does this include energy / oil or only consumer goods?
That makes sense. And Congress is bought and just watching. Well, between calls to their brokers to buy!
Good.
Imagine after less than two weeks in office, you're threatening and blackmailing other nations into being annexed by you and thinking this makes you the good guy in this scenario.
Not any other nations, some of your closest allies and trade partners. It's fucking bonkers...
I doubt he thinks he's the good guy and I'm certain he doesn't care.
Look at his official president photo, he wants to be an evil mastermind
My impression is that he thinks morality is dumb, basically. He's the protagonist of his own story, to the degree you'd expect from a raging narcissist, but not every story has a protagonist that's good.
If you are a Canadian or Mexican please contact your representatives and have them do a more targeted tariff plan. Target American red states directly! Oil tariffs should be universal but anything made in red states and counties should have a 100% tariff. Force industry and goods to flow through blue areas and Trump's support will crumble.
As the other posters have pointed out, we're already on it. Which, no offence, is a symptom of why we don't want to be part of the US - our government actually works.
I looked over the official list, and it's stupid detailed. Like, a couple of goods mentioned are papers for wrapping cigars and fitted cases for church bells.
According to this (see first 2 minutes), they are specifically trying to target red states in hopes of getting republicans to try and intervene with trump.
T came out of the gate, clearly rewarding loyalty and smashing dissent. No red state is going to budge. It's like T watched a CPG Grey on Monarchy.
And even if they did and tried, he's not listening to anyone but his handlers.
This assumes the people in the red States would see the chain of causation, which is unlikely.
It will create an enemy out of the taxing countries. I dont have a better idea but at this point his base will never turn from him.
Trump's base is a lost cause, but the pain may get the soft Dem voters to get off their arses and turn out for the next election.
Nothing will shift Maga, so appealing to them is wasted.
I agree there is a large subset of MAGA that are lost causes, however, I've seen a couple people around me change their minds on Trump: One was over the H1B (fear of job loss) and the other was over these recent tariffs (fear of paying more). Had to cause issues that could have direct impacts to them personally to change their minds, but there you have it.
Republicans only care when it affects then directly.
Exactly. So target then directly. Targeting blue voters will just push them right.
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Please! We're in dire need of consequences.
I really believe Trump is refusing calls from Trudeau like its a power move in a high stakes negotiations. Instead its an idiot, Trump, doing something dumb and an actual intelligent adult is trying to tell him how dumb he is and he won't listen.
It's proof that it's not about the economy which would mean the door is always open to negotiate a better deal. It's not about drugs since Canada could be calling to say, "We've made X changes to reduce drug trade."
So that begs the question: what is this all about?
So that begs the question: what is this all about?
Wrecking the economy so billionaires can buy up infrastructure at fire-sale prices?
This is Putin getting his Puppet to weaken the USA to promote Putin's goals. Donvict is a Russian asset. A weak USA helps Russia and BRICS, especially for objectives like Ukraine. Other players, like the oligarchs, are also beholden to Putin.
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If Canada just stopped selling aluminum and steel to the US, it would heavily affect aerospace and military manufacturing.
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Good. Hit us with your best shot. We deserve it.
He was talking directly to the American People, as he mentioned right before this quote.
But it seems American media is invested in keeping the American people uninvested. Like this is between two leaders and we just get to watch.
There is nothing other countries can really do about this except impose tariffs in kind. When american inflation goes up I hope Americans put stickers on gas pumps and more eating "Trump did this"
Canada could start ignoring American intellectual property rights, or shutting off power exports to places like NY.
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