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Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau denounced Trump’s sudden 25% tariffs, warning they threaten American jobs and will inflate consumer costs.

He revealed that Trump refuses to take his calls and sharply criticized claims linking tariffs to illegal immigration and fentanyl crossing U.S. borders.

In retaliation, Canada and Mexico imposed matching tariffs, targeting crucial American exports like auto parts, agriculture, and red-state staples like famous Kentucky bourbon.

Trudeau warned American factories may shut, citing integrated supply chains.

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[–] MapleEngineer@lemmy.world 60 points 15 hours ago (3 children)

Here are some numbers to consider.

The US sold $441 billion worth of goods and services to Canada in 2024.

Canada sold $482 billion worth of goods and services to the US in 2024.

The US has a populating of 334.9 million people.

Canada has a population of 40.1 million people.

Per capita, every American man, woman, and child spent $1,316.81 on Canadian goods and services.

Candians spent $12,019. 95 on American good and services.

Who isn't pulling their weight in this trading relationship?

This isn't about illegal immigration and it isn't about the 20 lbs of fentanyl that tried to cross the border from Canada.

This is about the billionaire class raising taxes on the poor and raising prices for Americans.

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 6 points 5 hours ago

This comment is a copypasta

[–] shawn1122@lemm.ee -1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Source? Does this include energy / oil or only consumer goods?

[–] MapleEngineer@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Marleyinoc@lemmy.world 7 points 14 hours ago

That makes sense. And Congress is bought and just watching. Well, between calls to their brokers to buy!

[–] Corno@lemm.ee 55 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

Good.

Imagine after less than two weeks in office, you're threatening and blackmailing other nations into being annexed by you and thinking this makes you the good guy in this scenario.

[–] BestBouclettes@jlai.lu 3 points 57 minutes ago

Not any other nations, some of your closest allies and trade partners. It's fucking bonkers...

[–] Drusas@fedia.io 19 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

I doubt he thinks he's the good guy and I'm certain he doesn't care.

[–] __Lost__@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 14 hours ago

Look at his official president photo, he wants to be an evil mastermind

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 18 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

My impression is that he thinks morality is dumb, basically. He's the protagonist of his own story, to the degree you'd expect from a raging narcissist, but not every story has a protagonist that's good.

[–] NatakuNox@lemmy.world 93 points 1 day ago (8 children)

If you are a Canadian or Mexican please contact your representatives and have them do a more targeted tariff plan. Target American red states directly! Oil tariffs should be universal but anything made in red states and counties should have a 100% tariff. Force industry and goods to flow through blue areas and Trump's support will crumble.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 29 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

As the other posters have pointed out, we're already on it. Which, no offence, is a symptom of why we don't want to be part of the US - our government actually works.

I looked over the official list, and it's stupid detailed. Like, a couple of goods mentioned are papers for wrapping cigars and fitted cases for church bells.

[–] leadore@lemmy.world 25 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

According to this (see first 2 minutes), they are specifically trying to target red states in hopes of getting republicans to try and intervene with trump.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 hours ago

T came out of the gate, clearly rewarding loyalty and smashing dissent. No red state is going to budge. It's like T watched a CPG Grey on Monarchy.

And even if they did and tried, he's not listening to anyone but his handlers.

[–] Brodysseus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 34 points 22 hours ago (12 children)

This assumes the people in the red States would see the chain of causation, which is unlikely.

It will create an enemy out of the taxing countries. I dont have a better idea but at this point his base will never turn from him.

[–] slickgoat@lemmy.world 31 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Trump's base is a lost cause, but the pain may get the soft Dem voters to get off their arses and turn out for the next election.

Nothing will shift Maga, so appealing to them is wasted.

[–] TechAnon@lemm.ee 12 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

I agree there is a large subset of MAGA that are lost causes, however, I've seen a couple people around me change their minds on Trump: One was over the H1B (fear of job loss) and the other was over these recent tariffs (fear of paying more). Had to cause issues that could have direct impacts to them personally to change their minds, but there you have it.

[–] Wiz@midwest.social 10 points 13 hours ago

Republicans only care when it affects then directly.

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[–] BigBenis@lemmy.world 24 points 19 hours ago

Please! We're in dire need of consequences.

[–] blakenong@lemmings.world 23 points 20 hours ago

Good. Hit us with your best shot. We deserve it.

[–] SinningStromgald@lemmy.world 214 points 1 day ago (20 children)

I really believe Trump is refusing calls from Trudeau like its a power move in a high stakes negotiations. Instead its an idiot, Trump, doing something dumb and an actual intelligent adult is trying to tell him how dumb he is and he won't listen.

[–] TechAnon@lemm.ee 12 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

It's proof that it's not about the economy which would mean the door is always open to negotiate a better deal. It's not about drugs since Canada could be calling to say, "We've made X changes to reduce drug trade."

So that begs the question: what is this all about?

[–] Zombiepirate@lemmy.world 14 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

So that begs the question: what is this all about?

Wrecking the economy so billionaires can buy up infrastructure at fire-sale prices?

[–] bradinutah@thelemmy.club 12 points 17 hours ago

This is Putin getting his Puppet to weaken the USA to promote Putin's goals. Donvict is a Russian asset. A weak USA helps Russia and BRICS, especially for objectives like Ukraine. Other players, like the oligarchs, are also beholden to Putin.

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[–] BassTurd@lemmy.world 56 points 23 hours ago (3 children)

If Canada just stopped selling aluminum and steel to the US, it would heavily affect aerospace and military manufacturing.

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[–] Monstrosity@lemm.ee 62 points 1 day ago

He was talking directly to the American People, as he mentioned right before this quote.

But it seems American media is invested in keeping the American people uninvested. Like this is between two leaders and we just get to watch.

[–] BananaTrifleViolin@lemmy.world 103 points 1 day ago (15 children)

There is nothing other countries can really do about this except impose tariffs in kind. When american inflation goes up I hope Americans put stickers on gas pumps and more eating "Trump did this"

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[–] fakir@lemm.ee 30 points 23 hours ago

Any sufficiently advanced incompetence is indistinguishable from malice.

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