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I honestly believe Stephan Pastis is a better and more insightful satirist than anything you would see on (for example) The Daily Show.

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[–] grue@lemmy.world 44 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I honestly believe Stephan Pastis is a better and more insightful satirist than anything you would see on (for example) The Daily Show.

I might even agree, but I want to add that that's damn high praise because The Daily Show is no slouch either.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago

I agree, it's high praise. And deserved.

I mean as much as I do like the Daily Show, a lot of it is, "here's the dumb shit that happened today." It's funny satire, but it's less insightful.

[–] cerement@slrpnk.net 15 points 1 day ago

couple decades back, some study claimed that people who watched the Daily Show with Jon Stewart knew more about current events than anyone who watched any of the network news programs

[–] dumnezero@piefed.social 33 points 2 days ago (1 children)

This is where the "temporarily embarrassed millionaire" (or billionaire) come into play. That's the most relevant form of being a class traitor.

[–] pennomi@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I mean with only 300 billion, we could make 300,000 new millionaires. If you took that from Musk, he’d still have over 100 billion dollars all to himself.

[–] dumnezero@piefed.social 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Yes, that's what I mean. What you described happened and it's a core part of how capitalists build up a popular base. The temporarily embarrassed ones are looking up to the ones who are actual millionaires. Don't worry, they get that money back in the end.

With wealth, like properties, shares and various "passive income", the class interests of the former working class person tend to turn into capitalist class interests: lower taxation, more deregulation, more personal and family wealth accumulation, more welfare and aid for "business owners", smaller social welfare systems (for the masses) with private (and exclusively expensive) alternatives, and so on.

From the horse owner's mouth: How FDR Saved Capitalism

[–] Hawke@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago
[–] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

it's been too late for the "let's all work together!!" approach for years

it is now the owner class, their nazi sheep supporters, and everyone who's not in that club that they want to kill

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 31 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I think you are ignoring the message at the end of this comic about why they have supporters.

[–] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 25 points 2 days ago

yes. from birth to death, americans are force-fed a steady diet of lies, distractions, american exceptionalism--on top of the guilt, fear, and shame pounded into their skulls by religion

i work at an academic library. not only are kids woefully unprepared for higher education, but they are coming into the world without even a grasp of how to think critically about the information they're being presented with, let alone why

the comic is correct, for sure, but my point stands

[–] Metz@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Division is created by choice. The left saw the same news, read the same lies and heard the same bullshit, but we did not became hateful and ignorant racist and mysoginist. The right isn't the right because the billionaire pushed them that way; they choose to be like that and used the billionairs lies as reason for it. They became that way because they wanted to be that way.

We tried for decades to work with them to make the world a better place for everybody. They don't give a shit. So why should we?

Fuck them and fuck the billionaires. The left is big enough to kill them both. We just have to do it. Cut the cancer out!

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 52 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I have no idea why you think people inside a Fox News/Newsmax/etc. right ring media bubble are absorbing the same news. They very much are not. 10 minutes spent on either source, or many, many other right-wing sources and you will be in a different, and very much fictional, universe.

[–] Metz@lemmy.world -2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The point is, they are there of their own free will. They want to be lied to. They want to use it to justify their inherent hatred. They are not good people who have been seduced by evil. They are evil. Maybe not all of them but most. You can't talk with them, you can not convert them back to good.

Or maybe i'm just bitter and frustrated, who knows.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 38 points 2 days ago

They are there after a lifetime of indoctrination in right-wing views. Do you think someone raised evangelical from birth is able to just shake that off? Not that many people escape.

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago

"it's not that I have different experiences, it's that I'm inherently superior"

Great claim. Why are you generically superior then?