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"The U.S. cannot treat Colombian migrants as criminals," Petro wrote. Petro said even though there were 15,660 Americans without legal immigration status in Colombia, he would never carry out a raid to return handcuffed Americans to the United States. "We are the opposite of the Nazis," he wrote, in a jab at Trump. Mexico also refused a request last week to let a U.S. military aircraft land with migrants.

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[–] ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org 42 points 1 week ago

Oh no! Don Jr. will pay his snow 25% more!

[–] LemoineFairclough@sh.itjust.works 36 points 1 week ago (5 children)

It seems the specific problem was that military planes were being used instead of civilian planes:

That is why I returned the U.S. military planes that were carrying Colombian migrants... In civilian planes, without being treated like criminals, we will receive our fellow citizens.

That does make sense to me, since I'd feel less comfortable if a military plane was flying into my country, whereas I'd be more comfortable if a regular civilian flight was used instead. From the perspective of a Colombian, I would be concerned about how national security would be affected by giving permission for military planes to operate when they wouldn't otherwise have permission.

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[–] MapleEngineer@lemmy.world 27 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Columbia imposed 50% tarrifs on all US goods.

[–] blakenong@lemmings.world 14 points 1 week ago (2 children)

What goods do we export to Columbia?

[–] TheObviousSolution@kbin.melroy.org 46 points 1 week ago (3 children)

A lot of technology goods. Which basically means China, which was already doing a lot of their manufacture, wins out. China is going to be moving all in on the US international market as it continues to ramp up this way, and the US will be left increasingly alone when it is eventually forced to aid Taiwan in its defense.

[–] Ashelyn@lemmy.blahaj.zone 29 points 1 week ago

The cherry on top is Trump rescinding the CHIPS act which was supposed to bring more silicon electronics manufacturing to the US, meant to make our microchip supply more resilient. Not only is it cutting off one's nose to spite one's face, it's also shooting ourselves in the foot (and then blaming Woke when the obvious consequences come knocking home).

[–] blakenong@lemmings.world 18 points 1 week ago

If it comes from China, it won’t have a tariff. That’s why those tariffs won’t work in the US. We will just work with “other vendors” who eventually are just China, with extra steps (and cost). I can’t think of much that the US exports, besides weapons, that can’t be bought somewhere else.

The only one suffering is the USA. The entire world does not need us, and most of them are sick of our shit.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

and the US will be left increasingly alone when it is eventually forced to aid Taiwan in its defense.

The US has recently convinced TSMC to open latest-process fabs in the US so that soon it won't have to do that. Within a few years the US's military policy in the event of a invasion from mainland China is going to shift from defending Taiwan to bombing TSMC ourselves and then leaving them to the wolves.

[–] MapleEngineer@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

U.S. goods exports to Colombia in 2022 were $20.8 billion, up 24.2 percent ($4.1 billion) from 2021 and up 27 percent from 2012. U.S. goods imports from Colombia totaled $18.5 billion in 2022, up 40.3 percent ($5.3 billion) from 2021, but down 25 percent from 2012.

https://ustr.gov/countries-regions/americas/colombia#%3A%7E%3Atext=U.S.+goods+exports+to+Colombia%2Cdown+25+percent+from+2012.

[–] blakenong@lemmings.world 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

20 billion. So, like the budget of any of our tech companies. I think they will be just fine.

Me, on the other hand, really enjoy coffee. So this is gonna suck.

[–] MapleEngineer@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

THAT is the point, isn't it? YOU pay the tarifs, not Columbia, so Americans will pay 25% extra for coffee, bananas, avocados, roses, and many other products that come from Columbia. And, when the orange turd puts tarifs on Canada the cost of gas, homes, and MANY other things will go up.

[–] blakenong@lemmings.world 3 points 1 week ago

Right. I know how tariffs work. No one but the US is gonna suffer from Trump’s stupid existence. He seems to think other countries can’t just buy from someone else.

[–] DrFistington@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

20 billion barely buys an election these days

[–] Danitos@reddthat.com 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Colombia's president already agreed to take all deportation flights, so tariffs are canceled.

[–] habitualcynic@lemmy.world 25 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Important to note that the agreement came after the deportees would be transported humanely on commercial flights as I understand it.

Can’t let the MAGA morons claim victory as though Colombia just caved in fear

[–] Danitos@reddthat.com 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That doesn't seem to be true: https://www.elespectador.com/politica/petro-y-trump-llegan-a-acuerdos-gobierno-de-colombia-recibira-a-connacionales-deportados-por-estados-unidos/. Translating, it means that the Colombian government agreed to all of Trump's terms for the deportation of immigrants. Additionally, militar planes have been used for deportations for some years now, it's not a Trump-only thing.

Colombian government did just caved out in fear, no VISA for anyone and 50% tariffs is a way too big thing for Colombian people to just let Petro (our already impopular president) do it, specially right now when there's a internal commotion status due to the rise of violence in Catatumbo, something that is mainly already his fault.

[–] habitualcynic@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

Hadn’t come across that, thanks for the source and translation! My Spanish isn’t there yet

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[–] Chivera@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

Is China going to step in and start trading with Latin America?

[–] Iapar@feddit.org 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I heard China hit the us with 75% tariff.

[–] BlindFrog@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Source?

I'm sorry; whatever search engines I've tried are f*cked and only give me articles about US tarrifs on other countries' exports. It's been ridiculous trying to find what I'm looking for.

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