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TLDR if you don't wanna watch the whole thing: Benaminute (the Youtuber here) creates a fresh YouTube account and watches all recommended shorts without skipping. They repeat this 5 times, where they change their location to a random city in the US.

Below is the number of shorts after which alt-right content was recommended. Left wing/liberal content was never recommended first.

  1. Houston: 88 shorts
  2. Chicago: 98 shorts
  3. Atlanta: 109 shorts
  4. NYC: 247 shorts
  5. San Fransisco: never (Benaminute stopped after 250 shorts)

There however, was a certain pattern to this. First, non-political shorts were recommended. After that, AI Jesus shorts started to be recommended (with either AI Jesus talking to you, or an AI narrator narrating verses from the Bible). After this, non-political shorts by alt-right personalities (Jordan Peterson, Joe Rogan, Ben Shapiro, etc.) started to be recommended. Finally, explicitly alt-right shorts started to be recommended.

What I personally found both disturbing and kinda hilarious was in the case of Chicago. The non-political content in the beginning was a lot of Gen Alpha brainrot. Benaminute said that this seemed to be the norm for Chicago, as they had observed this in another similar experiment (which dealt with long-form content instead of shorts). After some shorts, there came a short where AI Gru (the main character from Despicable Me) was telling you to vote for Trump. He was going on about how voting for "Kamilia" would lose you "10000 rizz", and how voting for Trump would get you "1 million rizz".

In the end, Benaminute along with Miniminuteman propose a hypothesis trying to explain this phenomenon. They propose that alt-right content might be inciting more emotion, thus ranking high up in the algorithm. They say the algorithm isn't necessarily left wing or right wing, but that alt-right wingers have understood the methodology of how to capture and grow their audience better.

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[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yeah, I've gotten more right wing video recommendations on YouTube, even though I have turned off my history. And even if I turned on my history, I typically watch left wing videos.

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 week ago

The minute I sign out of my account YouTube tries to radicalize me.

[–] Subtracty@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

With Milo (miniminuteman) in the thumbnail, I thought the video was going to imsinuate that his content was part of the alt-right stuff. Was confused and terrified. Happily, that was not the case.

[–] Bonesy91@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

Yup they have been showing up for me today. Fuck YouTube

[–] Hope@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Just scrolling through shorts on a given day, I'm usually recommended at least one short by someone infamously hostile to the LGBTQIA+ community. I get that it could be from people with my interests hate-watching, but I don't want to be shown any of it. (Nearly all of my YouTube subscriptions are to LGBTQIA+ creators. I'm not subscribed to anyone who has ever even mentioned support for right leaning policies on anything.)

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[–] Yerbouti@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 week ago (3 children)

There's a firefox extension to hide short and another to default to your subscription. Along with ublock, those are the only things that makes youtube usable.

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[–] gimmelemmy@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

Yeah it sure does. There is no way that garbage should be showing up for me, but yet...

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I like Youtube (with adblocker) but shorts are pretty trashy. It's mostly shorts of women as naked as they can get on Youtube without breaking the rules who have purposefully given themselves super camel toes and set the thumbnail for the short to show their camel toe to get people's attention. And it's just a front to get you to their OnlyFans.

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[–] Cracks_InTheWalls@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Real talk: I've been using YouTube without an account and with some ad blocking stuff installed. Based on what I'm seeing, I'm pretty sure the algorithm's datapoint for me is "He was born with a penis and is ok with that."

When I lose my better judgement and start scrolling shorts like an idiot, It is fight videos (IRL, movie scenes, UFC and boxing), auditing, Charlie Kirk and right-wing influencers, and the occasional clip from Shoresy on the basis "He might be Canadian too, idk".

It is noticibly weird, and I have brought it up to my kid who uses an account, is not what Youtube believes me to be, and whose shorts feed is very different.

We do both get that guy who opens Pokemon cards with a catchy jingle, though.

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[–] Sgt_choke_n_stroke@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Instagram does the same thing with "dark jokes" and really weird ufo and conspiracy videos it really sucks

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[–] neon_nova@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 week ago

If they are using a vpn to switch their location, could it be that people in the south are using the same ip to access phub and rightwing crap?

[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 5 points 1 week ago

I have to get 2 extensions to make youtube better in order to block shorts, disable autoplay, make UI better, and bring youtube dislike button back. This is excluding ublock origin by the way, so I guess 3 or so

[–] Imhotep@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (4 children)

fresh YouTube account

change their location to a random city in the US

yeah but you're still bound to IP addresses. I was under the impression Youtube used those for their profiling

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[–] MITM0@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

So....... in the US then ?

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