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[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

A shutdown would be preferable than a sale of the active app and userbase to Elon no?

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[–] vodkasolution@feddit.it 10 points 1 day ago (3 children)

First time in years I see something not bad happen in the US

[–] Bronzebeard@lemm.ee 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You're not looking very closely then

[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You got some suggestions on where to look? We're speedrunning the fall of rome over here, it's pretty much to the point that even hope is an unreasonable thing to hope for...

[–] Bronzebeard@lemm.ee 7 points 1 day ago

I meant the claim that this was somehow a good thing, and not a performative "anti-china" bill that was really about cutting out the young people's current venue for organizing against the wealthy's interests, like their criticisms of the genocide in Gaza. China will still get all that info by buying it off the hundred other apps that collect it. If they cared about the data collection, they'd have addressed all data collection.

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[–] Moobythegoldensock@lemm.ee 14 points 1 day ago

Yes TikTok, that’s what a ban is.

[–] Zak@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

I'm surprised they're taking that approach rather than pushing the web version.

[–] Landless2029@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago

Yeah this just sounds like compliance with the media making it seem like a protest for clicks...

[–] SplashJackson@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 day ago

Just fucking do it alreadyyyyyy

[–] NegativeLookBehind@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Still time to send them on some luxury vacations, I hear they like those!

Can you order ~~an RV~~ a motor coach from Temu?

[–] d0ntpan1c@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Wild to me how much people here are celebrating the App ban.

I get that this is the fediverse and the goal is decentralized social media, but this ban also means thousands of small businesses will lose a primary or secondary source of income that they can't just replacewuickly, tons of people will lose access to methods of communication that would otherwise be censored on US platforms, and it eliminates a platform that has excelled at breaking down governments placed barriers of communication between different groups (which is something the fediverse does well, too)

Celebrating this is rather selfish and anti-free speech.

[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Its a platform that was secretly suppressing people for being disabled, black, queer or ugly. Cheering it's death is reasonable, defending it on the grounds that people will have to advertise somewhere else really isn't.

[–] umean2me@lemmy.today 5 points 22 hours ago (6 children)

I think most people on here would agree that TikTok is a shitty app, but you can't deny that just deciding to ban something in the manner they're doing with this bill is shady. The bill is very obviously targeted towards TikTok but is worded in a way that it can be used on any software owned by a "Foreign Adversary" as defined by the government.

It's proposed in the frame of national security with concerns of data collection being sent to China, but if that's the case there are far worse offenders of that violation of privacy than TikTok! Most large tech companies collect data from their users and sell it overseas. They may not sell directly to China but the amount of data collected is insane and once it is out of the hands of Meta or Google or whoever, it becomes hard to know for certain where it ends up.

The point I'm trying to make is that if the real concern is national security, their focus should be on regulating data collection instead of banning a singular app which collects the same data every other app in the world does. I don't defend TikTok, I couldn't care less if it was gone, but the grounds on which it is being banned are concerning and somewhat contradictory.

If I have been misinformed of any of this please let me know, this is just what I've gathered from reading sections of the bill myself and from the court hearings.

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[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 0 points 13 hours ago (8 children)

You have evidence of that? Because I saw all of that in my feeds on the daily.

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[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

I'm pretty sure every imperial app is also censoring anti-genocide perspectives, etc. That's literally the whole point of this ban.

https://newrepublic.com/post/181327/mitt-romney-congress-ban-tiktok-israel-gaza

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[–] d0ntpan1c@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 day ago (8 children)

Disabled, black, queer, ugly (which is subjective but whatever) seemed quite unsuppressed on tiktok to my perception and the perceptions of many in those spaces... I'm sure there are exceptions due to the large sample size.

I fit several of those categories and have been immersed in those spaces on tiktok for a long time and the opinion has always trended to it being far superior for discussing and being in those groups than Instagram or YouTube. Especially for disabled and queer groups, tiktok was always the bigger audience.

defending it on the grounds that people will have to advertise somewhere else really isn't.

Shop is a lot more than advertising. Much closer to pre-enshittified etsy, and there's a reason a lot of small businesses formed around it instead of instagram. Tiktok would actually allow those products to be shown to people rather than supressed in favor of corporations.

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[–] sigmaklimgrindset@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Hoping they shut down and open source their algorithm. They already released part of it on github, apparently, but I haven't had a chance to look at it. Would like it if I could somehow use it for a personal Loops server in the future.

[–] Pieisawesome@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

That looks to be 2 years old. It’s probably much different than the current one

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