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[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 28 points 4 months ago (2 children)

There will always be "rogue democrats" that vote with conservatives. It's almost like it's by design...

[–] anachronist@midwest.social 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

It's the old Designated Villain

https://www.salon.com/2010/02/23/democrats_34/

One minute, it's Jay Rockefeller as the Prime Villain leading the way in protecting Bush surveillance programs and demanding telecom immunity; the next minute, it's Dianne Feinstein and Chuck Schumer joining hands and "breaking with their party" to ensure Michael Mukasey's confirmation as Attorney General; then it's Big Bad Joe Lieberman single-handedly blocking Medicare expansion; then it's Blanche Lincoln and Jim Webb joining with Lindsey Graham to support the de-funding of civilian trials for Terrorists; and now that they can't blame Lieberman or Ben Nelson any longer on health care (since they don't need 60 votes), Jay Rockefeller voluntarily returns to the Villain Role, stepping up to put an end to the pretend-movement among Senate Democrats to enact the public option via reconciliation.

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 19 points 4 months ago

It's a club, and you don't wield it.

[–] Substance_P@lemmy.world 13 points 4 months ago (2 children)

What are the names of the 45 Democrats that voted with GOP? That's what I'd like to know.

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 8 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

The very first link in the article.

The Illegitimate Court Counteraction Act passed 243 to

Click on "passed".
The article is full of links for verification.

[–] HootinNHollerin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Not really digestible list there though. Even the xml is lacking any easy of state and party in a succinct list https://clerk.house.gov/evs/2025/roll007.xml

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 1 points 4 months ago

Lead a horse to water, and he'll nitpick it all day.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

A lot of shithole states have Democratic representatives, I see.

Well that’s pathetic and they suck. And we’re not signatories to the ICC so it’s effectively chest-beating just to be assholes about it right?

[–] limer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It might be more than just being assholes; this could be a step towards attacking the ICC in ways that truly undermine international law.

Just because the USA is not a member does not mean it can’t make things more difficult.

But chaos in government… probably forgotten later

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I mean the only countries that aren't members are the US and Israel I think . . . oh and Russia, China, Libya, and Qatar. Noice.

That ability to claim jurisdiction over individuals unlikely to be prosecuted in national courts is probably one of the key reasons why some prominent nations like the United States, China and Russia continue to decline to sign this particular treaty agreement.

https://nomadcapitalist.com/global-citizen/countries-arent-part-of-icc/

[–] limer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 4 months ago

It’s more of a lifestyle choice

[–] Substance_P@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

Oh my bad, I just skimmed the article.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

That's how much the US cares about justice for war crimes.