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[–] ILikeTraaaains@lemmy.world 6 points 1 hour ago

If Hitler is communist then the Nazi party is communist.

If the nazi party is communist then nazis and supporter of the nazi ideology are communists.

The far right is comprised majorly of nazis and supporters of nazi ideology, then the far right is communist.

The far right has Trump as a leader and have an ideology similar to their supporters, then… Trump is communist.

America, you know what to do with those commies.

[–] Furbag@lemmy.world 8 points 2 hours ago

Consider the martyr Luigi in these troubled times.

[–] lemmydividebyzero@reddthat.com 12 points 3 hours ago

Funniest are people quoting Goebbels who said something like that...

Like... Bruh.... You are falling for the tricks of the minister of propaganda of the Deutsches Reich of 1940 in 2025...

[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 37 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Breaking: self proclaimed genius is, in fact, an idiot.

[–] bizzle@lemmy.world 7 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Didn't his own dad say he was... the R word?

[–] skulblaka@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 hours ago

To be fair his dad's opinion isn't one that I respect.

But yes. The man has more money than God and basically his entire family has completely disowned him, with the exception of the baby he carries around as body armor because he isn't old enough to know what that is yet.

For anyone else in the world I would hope that would be something of a wake up call.

[–] poo@lemmy.world 13 points 5 hours ago

You Americans really need to do something about this clown coughluigicough

[–] alexc@lemmy.world 12 points 5 hours ago

The problem isn’t the Elon and co say this. It’s the middle ground people who, for the most part, are reasonable but have little education about politics, and don’t want to participate beyond soundbites.

In this case, the phrase works on two levels.

Most of these people would admit Hitler was bad. So, this reaffirms the statement Communism is bad. Even if they don’t know what Communism is.

For others, Communism is bad. This allows them to hear “We’re not like Hitler” about Elon and Co. They have no idea how bad Elon and Co may be, but at least their not commie pinkos.

The real genius of capitalists has been to persuade the electorate that there are no viable alternatives to capitalism.

[–] Cintari@lemmy.world 14 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

McBain to base. Under attack by Commie-Nazis.

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[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

A commie-Nazie is such a weird combi-nation

[–] ploot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 54 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (2 children)

Is this the whole "Nazis were socialists because it's in the name" thing again? The far right love to pull this point out, ignoring the fact that as soon as he had power, Hitler had anyone remotely socialist in the Nazi party murdered so he could get on with the fascism. The name "National Socialist" was a trick to get people on board. Anyway, it figures that Musk thinks Hitler was too left wing, since Musk thinks the whole universe is too left wing. And it's characteristic of Musk that being to the right of Hitler doesn't even give him pause.

[–] FlowVoid@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

The name "National Socialist" was a trick to get people on board.

Sort of. Hitler didn't found the party, he joined it as a mole in order to spy on it for the military. He ended up doing a lot more than most moles, eventually taking it over and expelling the more socialist (though still racist) founders.

Hitler hated socialists and tried to change the name as soon as he took over, but was convinced to keep the name because it had become a popular brand.

[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 8 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

North Korea is a thriving democracy; it’s right in the name!

[–] ghurab@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

and Baathist Syria was totally a democratic republic

[–] bungalowtill@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 5 hours ago

Braune Scheiße macht braune Scheiße

[–] Pregnenolone@lemmy.world 81 points 9 hours ago (3 children)

The Axis alliance between Italy Germany and Japan was literally formed as an anti-communist alliance.

[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

Lost cause of the south levels of willful delusion

[–] 299792458ms@lemmy.zip 6 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I was looking for this comment. It just shows Elon's lack of knowledge and the will to say anything for the sake o confirming your beliefs.

[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

I suspect he knows, he’s just a bad faith self serving douchebag

[–] Deway@lemmy.world 12 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Dear Leader says Hitler was a communist so he was, all of you are wrong!

Ah just like dear Winnie The Pooh, who we swear is a good communist, and China is the greatest egalitarian state.

(Ignore our billionaires and Uyghur genocide)

[–] andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works 9 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

It's like defining masculinity by looking at Musk.

[–] amon@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

It's like defining a sane leader by looking at Trump

[–] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 15 points 8 hours ago

So she admits that her AfD supporters also support a communist.

[–] Stern@lemmy.world 105 points 11 hours ago (3 children)

Communists were literally one of the first groups targeted for arrest when Hitler came to power in 1933. Like 10 seconds on google.

[–] Beryl@jlai.lu 2 points 2 hours ago

To quote wikipedia : The first [concentration] camp was Nohra, established on 3 March 1933 in a school. The number of prisoners in 1933–1934 is difficult to determine; historian Jane Caplan estimated it at 50,000, with arrests perhaps exceeding 100,000. Eighty per cent of prisoners were members of the Communist Party of Germany and ten per cent members of the Social Democratic Party of Germany.

This obviousy proves Hitler had tens of thousands of communists imprisonned in concentration camps to hide the fact that he secretly was a communist/socialist ! /s

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 29 points 9 hours ago (2 children)
[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

This assumes Elon is being genuine. He is not. Same as Trump. All the bullshit they spout is about manipulation of their supporters and not about being genuine about their beliefs.

[–] hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 29 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I think it's very possible that he doesn't actually believe this, but instead wishes that his fans, who are always so eager to kiss his ass do, since in the eyes of most people, Hitler was the most horrible person to ever exist, and if Hitler was a communist that'd mean that communists are horrible people.

On the other hand, Muskrat is so stupid that him honestly believing this isn't impossible.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 9 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I think Elon believes whatever is most convenient for him to achieve his goals.

[–] hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 9 hours ago

Fair. It's not like ~~fascists~~ conservatives care about things like logic or truth anyway.

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[–] fxomt@lemm.ee 126 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Breaking: Fascists are fucking stupid, more news at 11.

[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 22 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

Corrected Title: Two fascists agree Hitler was a communist.

[–] LadyAutumn@lemmy.blahaj.zone 20 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

Yeah, all the comments he made about the secret agenda of European jews to spread "judeobolshevism" through communist organizations and annihilate the Aryan race were just jokes about his good friends the communists. Him and Stalin were actually best buddies.

[–] Gloomy@mander.xyz 15 points 9 hours ago

It's telling that it needs the second sentence you wrote for me to realize you were speaking about Hitler, not Elon. I don't say he's gone of that far, but it wouldn't have supposed me at all.

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago

Let's invade Russia and kill 15 or 20 million peasants as a prank.

[–] random_character_a@lemmy.world 29 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

Oh yes. In the early 1900s Nazis waged openly violent political gang war against the communists out of love and similar views.

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[–] drascus@sh.itjust.works 33 points 10 hours ago (3 children)

Ahh so elon is now publicly declaring he doesn't know what he is talking about.

[–] datavoid@lemmy.ml 3 points 5 hours ago

Don't think he's actually that stupid unfortunately, this goes deeper than that and is far more manipulative

[–] Thorry84@feddit.nl 18 points 9 hours ago

That's what he always does right?

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 10 points 8 hours ago

Now? Always has been.

[–] Yerbouti@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 hours ago

Hitler was an environmentalist. Proof thaf clmate change is a hoax. Trust me bro, I own a social media.

[–] FelixCress@lemmy.world 40 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

Fucking idiots. Does it mean that Trump is a communist?

[–] 30p87@feddit.org 32 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

So ... then they're both communists too?

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 4 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Which shows how much they don't know about history. Given that Weidel talked about rather fictious versions of schools in Germany, I'd say that she did not spend enough time to learn anything worthwhile in there.

[–] ceiphas@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

She lives in Switzerland... So yes...

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