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[–] filister@lemmy.world 28 points 6 days ago (4 children)

ELI5 how is Trump any better than Putin? Both seem to be following the same playbook of intimidation and unlawful invasions, showing utter disrespect to international law.

[–] phoneymouse@lemmy.world 12 points 6 days ago

That’s exactly what Putin wants. He wants the US to behave as he does so that he can say, “see? The US is no better than me.”

[–] Peck@lemmy.world 13 points 6 days ago

There's no such thing as international law. It's free for all. If you have an army, you can also get what you want.

[–] Arkthos@pawb.social 4 points 6 days ago

So far Trump is all talk, of course he hasn't yet been sworn in, but until the invasions he threatens about become real he is not worse than Putin.

Here's hoping he's all bark and no bite.

[–] Maalus@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago

He is not and the US isn't any better than Russia in that regard. All caused by people with bruised egos playing with people's lives.

[–] Professorozone@lemmy.world 12 points 6 days ago

Gotta love having a president that has to be warned by allies NOT to invade other countries. This is SO great!

Oh and since not everyone gets it.../s.

[–] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 13 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

I say we let him have it. No, seriously! Just like we should let Musk have his Mars mission.

Give 'em a little certificate. "Look, you now own the thing! Good job!"

...Drop them off to survey their spoils...

...and frickin' leave 'em there to be forgotten forever.

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Thanks!

BTW nice meme. :D (yoink!)

[–] P1nkman@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Is that image from Mortal Kombat, the movie from the 90's? I just had a flashback to my childhood, lol

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 1 points 5 days ago

You can do it!

[–] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Sure is! I haven't seen it in ages either LOL. I probably haven't seen it in more than a decade (or two?!) by this point. I wonder how it holds up? It's definitely one of the classic "so bad it's a masterpiece" kinda movies hahaha.

...things were simpler then, weren't they? Hehe.

[–] P1nkman@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago

Yeah, last time I saw it was in the 90s, but the flashback, wow... I need to watch it again! I'll save your comment and try to get back to you after I've watched it😁

[–] wildcardology@lemmy.world 11 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I wonder how the US Congress will vote on this act of war.

[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 9 points 6 days ago

Oh it's not a war, just a special military operation

[–] P1k1e@lemmy.world 10 points 6 days ago

Distraction

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 4 points 6 days ago

Jesus Christ...

[–] hera@feddit.uk 42 points 1 week ago (2 children)

He's even more unhinged than the first time around

[–] ploot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 6 days ago

He has rallied the Christofascists around him with four years to reorganize, has escaped all punishment for his first insurrection, has the support of Putin once again, has the world's richest Nazi on side and funding him, and is emboldened.

[–] hddsx@lemmy.ca 30 points 1 week ago (1 children)

No, he’s just as unhinged. He’s just expressing it more openly

[–] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 3 points 6 days ago

Like everyone's bigoted elder who tones it down just a notch until their Great Leader is in charge again and they feel like they get carte blanche.

[–] LordWiggle@lemmy.world 36 points 1 week ago

History repeats itself.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 33 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'm the guy usually defending diplomatic talk. It's nothing like how we talk and interpret one another's words.

OTOH, I'm screaming at world leaders to grow a pair.

"Fuck around and find out you you little trust fund bitch. Please, fuck around."

High time the world stands up and says, "Nah. Fuck off America. We'll take what comes."

Signed, an American.

[–] twistypencil@lemmy.world 7 points 6 days ago

Is be fine with Europe, Canada and Mexico invading.

[–] Inventa@lemm.ee 31 points 1 week ago

He's just playing by Putin's instructions. Break up NATO

Just paying his dues

[–] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 23 points 1 week ago (1 children)

ready for all the "we need to LIBERATE ________ because they WANT us to save them!!!" cartoonishly bullshit propaganda

[–] irotsoma@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

Trump Jr. already started after he got run out after a day though he said je was staying for the week originally. Now He's saying how much they love Trump there.

[–] MonsterMonster@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I think the US will be fighting the rest of the world and itself at the same time.

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 week ago

That's kinda what they're all about.

[–] motor_spirit@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

there's a meme of some astronauts with guns that perfectly summarizes this

I think that meme melded with the spiderman meme...

Oh his just swinging his mushroom dick to feel like he matters, because the other adderall sniffer is taking the spotlight.

[–] TingoTenga@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

US will make a stupid move, Russia will make a stupid move, China will make a stupid move.

[–] towerful@programming.dev 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] Scott_of_the_Arctic@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago (3 children)

If the USA attacks another NATO country, article 5 requires that the rest of NATO all pile on. None of those countries could individually do much, but you'd be loosing hundreds of thousands of soldiers and trillions of dollars to possibly take an icy rock with a population of 56000. It's fucking stupid.

[–] NeuronautML@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

In one fell swoop the US would be dismembering itself from its most important geopolitical allies and secondary trade partners. There is absolutely no win here for the US unless NATO balks at US intimidation and decides to let Greenland go without a military response, which would open the door for more US bullying for lunch money. NATO must resist with force. Greenland is not worth the consequences, no matter how many minerals or shipping routes control there are in it. I suspect Trump will try the intimidation to the last moment possible, but i have big doubts that he will actually invade or be allowed to invade and intimidation never worked well against Europeans.

[–] ploot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 6 days ago

Which is why Trump will also be working hard to undermine NATO in any way he can.

[–] Jesus_666@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

...besides the fact that two of those other NATO members have nuclear weapons, which severely complicates matters.

[–] Scott_of_the_Arctic@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (2 children)

No-one is getting nuked over Greenland. That'd be retarded even by trump's standards.

[–] ubergeek@lemmy.today 2 points 6 days ago

Greenland is resource rich, and holds like 2/5ths of the Northern Passage opening up.

[–] Jesus_666@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Depends on how the war goes. Nobody uses nuclear weapons as a first response but they're always there as a reminder that if my country goes down, so does yours.

Besides, intercontinental force projection becomes a lot more complicated when your opponent has the ability, theoretical or not, to sink entire carrier groups at once.

I think it'd be more likely that Trump would get immediately kicked out of office if he actually managed to start a war with the EU. There's a limit to how stupid the GOP is willing to be for him.

Counterproductive policies that can be used to pocket some more money? Sure, why not. But a war that threatens to fuck the economy, dramatically curtail international trade, and probably hand global hegemony over to China? Too risky for too small a reward.

[–] Peck@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

Lol. Time of carrier groups is over my friend. 100 cheap naval drones will make short work of that.