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because tesla is basically just a pump and dump now considering the board are just musk stooges who greenlight anything he asks and investors are just musk cultists.

I had to use it for in flight wifi on Hawaiian. I needed to work, and that's the only wifi on Hawaiian. It worked fine, but I was annoyed that indirectly I was helping Musk. I would have happily paid 8 bucks even for worse internet. Thankfully I didn't have to give them any information to use it.

Damn shame too, cause the second gen Roadster is the car I've been dreaming of: hard top convertible, sporty, electric, faster than rabbits fucking. But I will never, ever own a Nazimobile.

I hope it at least inspires other automakers to bring back sporty convertibles. Until then I'll hang onto my 350Z Roadster forever. If that never happens, I guess I'll have to eventually convert the car to electric. I'm so sick and tired of every battery car being a god damn crossover. They're too big and corner like shit because of their size.

"His" cars are dogshit for the price. The only thing they have going for them is they are fast. Which makes them dangerous since people drive em fast and then cannot stop, since huge battery equals weight. The build quality is dog, the rear door will happily close on your fingers, and sometimes it'll just brick itself because F you.

Probably Kia and Hyundai

🤷 for some reason hybrids did really well in Europe this year. Probably because some countries have really shit charging infrastructure but people still want to emit less carbon.

The hybrids are bad though unless you live in a house and charge them at home. They don't have the hundreds of kW charging potential and if you charge them at work you often have to go move them during the day because you aren't allowed to leave them in the spot with the charger all day. Contrast this with an all electric vehicle that you can charge 200 km in five minutes at a gas tank.

100% agree. I used to dream of owning a Tesla, I used to love Elon Musk. But now that I found out who he really is... meh, I'll never ever buy a Tesla.

My parents got one somewhat recently (😒) and I have to say, features are also a negative point. Model Y door override is so inaccessible it might just as well not exist. No haptic control for most things except indicators as they are required by law.

Other than that it's a car like any other, so no reason to support Tesla specifically.

I got myself an i3 2017 a few months back and while you can tell it's a first gen EV and only basic non-BMW features (no Android Auto, only basic BT) I much prefer the i3. No random braking on the road, no crazy lane corrections. Not as powerful as the Tesla, but I drive in Eco, anyway.

I love Tesla for what they did for the EV market, but I'll happily attribute that to the original founders and engineers. M*sk was only PR; if the car was half as tech geeky they'd still be where they are today.

They could be the best cars on Earth and Elon's fuckery would be enough for me to do every tiny bit I could to keep their stock as low as possible.

Poor build quality was mostly ramping up to mass production. They mostly got that under control after the first couple years. At least for me, no longer an issue.

I don’t know about support - I no longer read complaints so that probably A good sign, they no longer have the excuse of rapidly growing sales taking all the parts, and they did put money into support starting a couple years ago.

The ceo on the other hand … you really can’t fix that

The new model 3s are improved upon also in quality I heard and soundproof

I personally will never consider a product he's attached to.

Nope. They are tied to the hip. From what I see the Board are just cashing out as it sinks.

Tank Girl.