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Summary

Trump admitted it will be difficult to lower consumer prices, despite campaign promises to reduce grocery, energy, and overall inflation costs.

Trump told Time that achieving price reductions is rare without major economic downturns.

During the campaign, Trump blamed rising costs on Democratic leadership and proposed tariffs as a solution, but economists warn tariffs could raise prices further.

Inflation, a key voter concern, played a significant role in Trump’s election victory, though he has yet to outline a clear plan to deliver on his economic pledges.

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[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 423 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Oh wow who could have fucking predicted

[–] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 118 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

my prediction is that they'll eventually just start saying "we DID lower prices. for everything" even though every graph will show that the prices have perpetually gone up. for everything. and all the complete fucking moron troompa loompa voters will 100% believe that prices have gone down

[–] AmidFuror@fedia.io 49 points 2 weeks ago

The graphs will indeed show that prices dropped, but that part will be in Sharpie ink.

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 23 points 2 weeks ago

"The price to buy a Banana has fallen from 3 Dogecoin to 1 Dogecoin. Who cares if it went up in dollars?"

[–] skuzz@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 2 weeks ago

Gotta love living in 1984: The Reality Show.

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[–] Mog_fanatic@lemmy.world 40 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

The absolute crazy thing is the energy prices. He said he'd cut energy prices in HALF within 12 months. Then he said it again. And again. He like quadrupled down on this and people actually bought it. This dude legitimately promised that all energy prices would be fucking halved in 12 months. I will eat my entire piece of shit car if that happens lol

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[–] IamSparticles@lemmy.zip 159 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

The only thing shocking here is that he's openly admitting he won't keep his promises.

[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 48 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Has he ever truly faced consequences for what he says or does?

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 39 points 2 weeks ago

Yes. He was celebrated for it!

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[–] IHeartBadCode@fedia.io 23 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Nobody knew health care could be so complicated

— President Trump (February 27, 2017)

I mean if nobody got the message he wasn't going to anything. Being direct this time isn't going to help. Literally didn't even fucking LOCK HER UP like he said he would. Don't even get me started on his tax return, still waiting on that, likely will happen on infrastructure week.

Anything that guy says is just utter shit.

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[–] Tyfud@lemmy.world 82 points 2 weeks ago (12 children)

I've repeated this before, but here's the truth:

They did not vote for him for the "economy". Or for "America First". Or for "Farmers", "unions", etc.

They voted for him for racism and bigotry against the LGBTQ+ community. That's the only campaign promise they're 100% sure he's going to follow through on. Attacking immigrants and making their life a living hell.

Any other reason they gave is a dog whistle for their support of his absolutely transparent bigotry on display every moment his mouth is open.

We need to stop assuming his voters actually care about the same things we do, or even the things they publicly say. They care about him upholding their racist and bigoted views.

That's it.

[–] Woht24@lemmy.world 39 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

For some, I would agree. But I'd also say that's an insane over generalisation and these kind of comments are the same shit. People with no serious education on a topic, spewing 'stats' and making sweeping statements.

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[–] LadyAutumn@lemmy.blahaj.zone 34 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

They do care about bigotry, for sure. But I wholeheartedly reject the notion that they don't care about the economy. The majority of America has suffered catastrophic financial losses over the last 4 years. The democratic platform did not honestly do a very convincing job of showing that they can or will remedy that. And they see everything from a reactionary right wing news source that lies to them.

The proof is in the past week. It's in the bipartisan celebration of the public execution of a mass murderer. Seriously, the conservative right is floundering trying to condemn the slaying while their whole base celebrates it openly. Working class conservatives still suffer medical debt, they still suffer cost of living increases, they still suffer from wage theft and pay stagnation. The way to appeal to those people wasn't to reach out to Republicans it was to reach out to them directly. It was to come forward with a radical plan to change the ways society sucks for all working class people.

The bigotry is unacceptable. I'm a trans woman, I agree. I'm an anarchist. I'm about as opposite politically as I could be from far right reactionary conservatives. The way to actually garner mass appeal among the working class is to actually do things that appeal to the working class. Establishment democrats categorically failed to do that, time and again. This recent health insurance dialog clearly shows that people want change. But instead of advocating for change, the establishment advocated for itself. Instead of combating transphobic and xenophobic narratives they just said the token progressive things expected of them. Why didn't Harris come out and say that focus on trans people and illegal immigrants is meant to draw attention away from the billionaires and capitalists who are profiting off of mass worker exploitation? She couldn't do that. She is as beholden to those billionaires and capitalists as MAGA is.

Like it's time to acknowledge that most transphobic members of the working class don't even understand what trans people are. They are outraged solely because the right wing propaganda tells them to be. The way forward isn't ostracization and more partisanship, but actual dialog focusing on the things that affect them and us negatively. It's far easier to demonstrate to them that they've been fed propaganda about trans people, when we can show them things they already know are true (like health insurance is bullshit) and then point out the propaganda they're being fed on that. We have common enemies. Class unity should be our goal. Not to appeal to Republican pundits and politicians and law makers, but to appeal to the well-being of all working class people. To be actually progressive, to be the actual left and to push for real radical positive change.

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[–] abigscaryhobo@lemmy.world 18 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I get what you're going for, but there are plenty of people that did vote for him for the economy and the like. There are plenty I'm sure that voted because of anti-lgbt issues without a doubt. But casting this blanket statement of "they all" like every single trump voter went to the polls and said "Gee I'd love healthcare, but those gays are a real problem" is dangerous rhetoric. This "us vs them" mentality is what makes things so difficult and divisive in the first place.

You're not going to win people over to your point of view if you lump every single person who doesn't already agree with you under the "racist bigot" umbrella.

Is there hate in their ranks? Sure. Do I think everyone who put trump on their vote card hates LGBT people and anyone not matching their race? No.

I get being upset but they won the election. And if we sit here going "We don't want you anyway bigot!" They're gonna win again. It's just not a healthy mentality to have in a dialogue.

Edit: also not really what the article was about. People did vote for him cause he said he'd lower prices and fix the economy, and he is failing to do that. This is an opportunity to point out his lies and welcome people to a different viewpoint, not slam the door in their face.

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[–] horse_battery_staple@lemmy.world 58 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

He's saying this because his administration will absolutely approve the Kroger Albertsons merger

https://www.npr.org/2024/12/10/nx-s1-5114999/kroger-albertsons-merger-ftc-lawsuit-court-ruling

[–] Steve@communick.news 16 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)
[–] horse_battery_staple@lemmy.world 39 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (4 children)

Yes, that's what the article I linked says.

Kroger and Albertsons saw their $24.6 billion merger blocked on Tuesday by judges in two separate cases, one brought by federal regulators and the other by the Washington state attorney general.

However that's likely temporary until the Trump administration is in. It'll probably be passed within the first year. Kroger and Albertsons just need to settle their current suit and re apply to the Trump administration.

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[–] krashmo@lemmy.world 55 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

Inflation soared above 9% in 2022 as a result of supply chain problems related to the coronavirus pandemic and strong consumer demand that had been buttressed by stimulus checks and other relief policies both Trump and President Joe Biden championed.

Jesus Christ we're still blaming stimulus checks for inflation. Most people couldn't pay more than a months rent at most with the stimulus they received and yet we're supposed to believe that was a huge factor driving prices up? Saying stupid shit like this is exactly as bad as Trump's ridiculous tariff proposals but because it's not a Republican saying it we're just supposed to accept it as gospel. Eat my ass HuffPo

[–] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 12 points 2 weeks ago

we're still blaming stimulus checks for inflation.

Most western countries had inflation as high or higher than the US and did not provide stimulus checks. Gee, I wonder what the common denominator could be...? Certainly not a worldwide pandemic!

[–] parrhesia@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I'm going to guess the small business loans didn't help either

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[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 53 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

Here's the thing though, no it's not hard to reduce the price of all of that, you just need to nationalize the industry for essential products. No more investors to please, no need to make billions in profit, prices can be reduced.

[–] Bluefalcon@discuss.tchncs.de 17 points 2 weeks ago

bUT, frEe MaRkeT brINg DOwn pRiCe!

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[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 42 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Oh man. I wish I could see the faces being eaten.

[–] VinnyDaCat@lemmy.world 21 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

They're all currently in denial and even when prices increase further due to the tariffs they'll just blame it on the previous administration.

Trust me, I've been trying to explain this to these people for a long time. Had a talk with one of them where I told them about this interview and their exact response was to blame Biden.

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[–] DrFistington@lemmy.world 36 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

No kidding, he just lied his ass off like he always does and the dickless MAGAT drones just slurped that jizz right up without ever stopping to think about how insanely fucking stupid the promis was to begin with...

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[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 33 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I don't think we need a headline or a news story to know this .... nothing he says means anything. The next four years is just going to be a never ending parade of bad faith, anger and anxiety.

[–] Dadifer@lemmy.world 21 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

I just hope it's only 4 years.

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[–] WaxiestSteam69@lemmy.world 32 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Everyone iny social circle and at work convinced themselves that he would fix things immediately. I can't tell you how many times I heard "as soon as Trump gets in the economy will get better" or "he'll fix it". He's a liar. A big reason we're here is he didn't get called out enough for being a liar.

I'm pretty sure the only thing he's interested in is revenge and he doesn't care who gets hurt on his path to achieving it.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 18 points 2 weeks ago

If people understood the very first thing about economics it would be glaringly obvious that his proposed tariffs would drastically raise grocery prices, and the prices of many other things. Unfortunately, people don't understand, and the media carefully avoids explaining it to them.

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[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 31 points 2 weeks ago

Oh my gosh! Oh my! Trustworthy Trump?! He lied... For political gain?

I'm sure the people who voted for him would be very upset right now if they could read.

[–] WaistGunnerPug@lemmy.world 23 points 2 weeks ago

I am Jack's complete lack of surprise.

[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 22 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Watch the market monopolize under him

[–] boydster@sh.itjust.works 20 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

This is how we finally achieve single payer healthcare in the US in the stupidest possible way and I wouldn't bet against it this point: The Aetnited CigShield Corp!

[–] futatorius@lemm.ee 14 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

That's not single payer, that's single provider (or, more correctly, single denier).

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[–] dhork@lemmy.world 17 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Promises Made, Promises Kept*!

[–] TimeSquirrel@kbin.melroy.org 10 points 2 weeks ago

Promise *bullshit = new Promise; delete bullshit;

[–] Birch@sh.itjust.works 15 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

To the surprise of literally no one with more than three brain cells

[–] sirico@feddit.uk 12 points 2 weeks ago

🧐 🐆 🐆 🐆 🐆

[–] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Trump: "I won on groceries. Very simple word, groceries. Like almost, you know, who uses the word. I started using the word. The groceries. When you buy apples, when you buy bacon, when you buy eggs, they would double and triple the price over a short period of time."

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 16 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

We need a Trump poster that quotes him saying,

"The Groceries."

[–] TimLovesTech@badatbeing.social 13 points 2 weeks ago

You need to watch the video of him at this non-chain grocery store and how confused/impressed he is at everything. And then the owner starts talking to him about it and Trump zones out completely and almost turns away from the guy he's so bored and only there for the PR. The guy has never shopped for himself, and is so out of touch with everyday people. He has lived in a bubble of influencers, con men, and fixers for his whole life, and has no idea how anything around him actually works.

[–] Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

I can't tell if this is satire or an actual quote.

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